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  • Llama God
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    • Mar 2009
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    #1

    Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

    Hi,

    I've hunted high and low for a definitive answer to this but have so far drawn a blank.

    Does anybody know whether any of the previous PCUs (B2242042 or D0292256) will go into the new MPc4502 or 5502 machines?

    Also, has anybody successfully used the B2242042 type PCUs in the MPc4000 type machines?

    Ta in advance,

    Chris
  • Lagonda
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    • Aug 2008
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    #2
    Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

    We've been using the D029 2256 pcu in the MP C4502/5502 range with out any problems. Have to take the usual steps, file corner off, swap wires over then snap the locating lug off the base plate in the back of the machine. A bit of work but save a $1000 every time you change the CMY. Of course you have to use the correct K unit as the shape is completely different.
    Never tried putting a MP C4500 pcu in a MP C4000
    At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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    • Llama God
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      #3
      Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

      Originally posted by Lagonda
      We've been using the D029 2256 pcu in the MP C4502/5502 range with out any problems. Have to take the usual steps, file corner off, swap wires over then snap the locating lug off the base plate in the back of the machine. A bit of work but save a $1000 every time you change the CMY. Of course you have to use the correct K unit as the shape is completely different.
      Never tried putting a MP C4500 pcu in a MP C4000
      So you use the D0292256 PCU to replace the colour PCUs in the new models? We haven't changed a PCU yet, somehow!

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      • Lagonda
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        Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

        Here's the cheat sheet that I hand out to the field

        Black PCU Colour PCU
        MP C2000 B223 2042 B223 2042 File corner off connector
        MP C2500 B223 2042 B223 2042 " " " "
        MP C2500 B223 2042 B223 2042 " " " "
        MP C3500 B223 2042 B223 2042 File corner off connector
        MP C4500 B223 2042 B223 2042 " " " "
        MP C2800 D029 2256 D029 2256 File corner off connector
        MP C3300 D029 2256 D029 2256 and swap wires over
        MP C4000 D029 2256 D029 2256 File corner off connector
        MP C5000 D029 2256 D029 2256 and swap wires over
        MP C3001 D089 2250 D029 2256 File corner off connector
        MP C3501 D089 2250 D029 2256 and swap wires over
        Also mod base plate
        MP C4501 D089 2250 D029 2256 File corner off connector
        MP C5501 D089 2250 D029 2256
        and swap wires over
        MP C4502 D144 2250 D029 2256
        MP C5502 D144 2250 D029 2256 Also mod base plate
        At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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        • sandmanmac
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          • Feb 2009
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          #5
          Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

          Awesome chart. Thanks Lagonda!

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          • zulufan1
            Technician
            • Oct 2009
            • 45

            #6
            Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

            Excellent Cheat sheet...Thank You.

            I have made it into a PDF.
            Attached Files
            Last edited by zulufan1; 11-07-2012, 04:21 AM. Reason: Add To

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            • Bantams
              Senior Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Jun 2012
              • 603

              #7
              Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

              Ive not as yet had to replace a MPC3001 PCU and we have a few on 500k now.

              The MPC2500 Black drum B224-2042 Fits the MPC2800 COL slot without changing the wires over but still needs the connector corner removing Btw! and its cheaper than the 2800 blk PCU

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              • teebee1234
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                • Jul 2008
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                #8
                Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

                Thanks for the great cheat sheet. I added some procedure photos that I cribbed from other threads (sorry OP's, I'll try and hunt down your names and give you credit). I didn't have a photo of cutting the pin in the rear, so if someone has one or could take one then please add it to this pdf and clean it up as you see fit.

                *FYI, I edited it online with "PDFescape".
                Attached Files

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                • zulufan1
                  Technician
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 45

                  #9
                  Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

                  Great addition. I'm not sure I have done the base plate mod before. What does that consist of?

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                  • Lagonda
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                    Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

                    Originally posted by zulufan1
                    Great addition. I'm not sure I have done the base plate mod before. What does that consist of?
                    If you remove drum units from the copier and look into the back of the cavity you will see the locating lugs on the rear of the plate that holds the PCU.

                    06102011006_1600x1200.jpg

                    This is the lug you have to remove.

                    I built a jig that quickly snaps the lug off and I'll post a picture as soon as I find out which tech borrowed it from the workshop and is to slack to return it.
                    At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                    • Llama God
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                      #11
                      Last edited by Llama God; 11-09-2012, 12:36 AM. Reason: Finger trouble

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                      • Llama God
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                        #12
                        Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

                        Or what Bantams already said! I should pay more attention in class.

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                        • sandmanmac
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                          #13
                          Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

                          Originally posted by teebee1234

                          *FYI, I edited it online with "PDFescape".

                          Nice edit, and very cool site! Thanks for that. It'll come in very handy.
                          Now THIS is one of those threads that just keeps getting better!

                          Thanks everyone​ for the very helpful info!

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                          • Lagonda
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                            #14
                            Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

                            My lug removing jig suddenly re-appeared.

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                            There is a slot on the end of the rod that the metal bracket that holds the lug slips into. Swing the handle from side to side several times and the lug snaps neatly off. All over and done with in seconds.

                            This tool is copywrited and patents pending. Manufacturing rights can be purchased with the appropriate amount of single malt scotch.
                            At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                            • Llama God
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                              #15
                              Re: Ricoh MPc4502 PCU

                              I use very strong snips. You are not getting my whisky, it's mine and I need it.

                              And I do mean need.

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