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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    When I brought this topic up everyone said pedophiles were wrong, people pointed out how moral they were, and cited examples of good atheists. I use the same logic regarding the crusades and...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    I think you're
    right, many of the religions in the world probably are nothing more than a way
    to control people. I find it hard to believe about the Bible though. Most of the laws are to benefit...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    I believe that. It seems to me if it weren't for some divine inspiration people would act no different than animals. But we have language. And we put on clothes. And we farmed the land. And we...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    I am just going by what people say and do. I don't know the religion of any of the CEO's, traders, or Bankers. What I do know is their philosophy is terrible.
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    It’s nice to see people are still interested in this topic, even if it is
    getting a little heated. Since we can agree CEO’s, wall street, and I’ll
    even throw in Bankers have a “BAD” philosophy...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    WHOA!! Hold on there a second. Read this again, this time for comprehension: What I was saying NOBODY HERE IS A PEDOPHILE so I will go argue with pedophiles. I have not changed my position, I was...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    Jerry's philosophy is he did nothing wrong. I've been thinking though, and realized I made a mistake. While it may be true Jerry Sandusky, NAMBLA, and many other pedophiles might think of themselves...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    aaaaand we're back to discussing atheiSTS. I had hoped to discuss the "philosophy" of atheISM, things like "where did we come from?", "What is the purpose of life?", "What happens after we die?",...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    That might be moot concerning murder. Which is why I brought up pedophiles.
    NAMBLA and other pedophiles are using the DOCTRINE of atheism and evolution to justify their actions. Until you produce...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    This is your original quote:


    Now you’re saying this:


    Your second quote is an accurate definition of atheism. The first was the
    definition of a skeptic, which you fixed yourself with the...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    Not at all. It is one thing to say "I don't believe in God" and quite another to say "There is NO God, or without God". There are definite implications when a person says "without God". Other than...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    Oh Snap! People actually thought I was trying to define what goes on in their heads?!?! That is laughable, I was defining atheISM. I guess I wasn’t as clear as I could have been. Maybe this will...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    That is nothing like my argument. My argument goes like this: I call myself an independent, then proceed to vote for 99% republican and 1% democrat.
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    My point was, there is a vast difference between what most atheists believe and what most atheists do. Like I said, most people I know attach meaning to life and are good people. This is a...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    I have a feeling most people say they are atheists for lack of a better term that describes not wanting religion in their life, not because they truly believe what atheism teaches. By definition...
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    Re: Marital Status

    That is unfortunate news, I will say a prayer you and your family. You must be a good father since your concern is with your kids. I’m nobody to be giving any advice, but I’d just like to encourage...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    It occurred to me, and this is meant as a compliment, but your guys aren’t very good atheists/evolutionists. Which is a good thing because a true atheist would not care what pedophiles do, life...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    Far be it from me to hand you a bicycle. If you don’t want religion in your life that is your prerogative and I shouldn’t meddle. I shouldn’t poke holes in other peoples reality either, but telling...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    Atheism- life has no meaning. nothing really matters.
    Evolution - life was an accident. there is no right or wrong only impulses.
    Mohammed- it is ok to kill people, even women and children, if they...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    That is exactly what I am saying. Case and point: Jerry Sandusky, a fairly dangerous person right?? His "morality" inside him said this was "the right thing to do". He reached a certain point of...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    Jerry Sandusky has the opinion what he did didn't harm anyone, he loved those boys in a good way. Just so we are all on the same page here: I am totally against pedophiles. I know why they are...
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    Re: indentured servants my ass.....

    Who put those there God or evolution? If the universe is some colossal accident and we are here merely by chance, there is no such thing as morals. There is no difference between shooting a rock...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    Soo true. But who defines those rights the state or God? If the states define them they can change. What happens when this law goes to the supreme court and they uphold it? Pedophiles will be...
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    Re: indentured servants my ass.....

    Known? Rights? Exactly how did we know this?
    Jerry Sansusky insists they were not hurt and this was a good thing. Who are you to say otherwise?
    Morals come from God. Anything you come up with is...
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    Re: Where the rubber meets the road.

    So you say, but that is just an opinion. Who says they don't have the right?
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