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    what is the required button sequence to access sims in the 80 range on an arm620.We've just remannned the machine and need to clear the lifetime total. i can't find it in the service manual

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    remanuf. or not, rolling back the master counter is fraud, can I sell you a used car that I remanuf, w/ 0 miles on the odometer? This is why the special commands aren't listed in field manuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nachoman4life View Post
    remanuf. or rolling back the master counter is fraud, can I sell you a used car that I remanuf, w/ 0 miles on the odometer?
    I am not responsible for your fraud conviction P*CA*

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    Your opinion and you are welcome to it, even if it is misguided

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    thanks for the info though!!

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    Its not an opinion its the LAW.

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    Like i said your opinion ,wrong but you're welcome to it.....and did I say thanks for the info?

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    to each his own, but I typoed the code P * CA P

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    Is that, legally, fraud? I don't mean to question you, but do you have any links you could send me regarding that? There's a few people I'd like to bring this up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ast0reth View Post
    Is that, legally, fraud? I don't mean to question you, but do you have any links you could send me regarding that? There's a few people I'd like to bring this up with.
    I think it is a matter of semantics. Remanufactured versus refurbished. Both operations are similar and we do this with our machines but do not reset the master counters. We have reset the display counters at the customers request but that is in the normal simulations portion of the service manual. I think you do a dis-service to your customers if you do not allow them to judge the value of the machine you are trying to sell them by misrepresenting the total counter. For leasing company's they place a higher value on reman copiers versus refurb. However I do not think it is illegal or the copier companies would not allow you to do it. There might be some consumer groups who would have better information about that or might even want knowledge of this practice.
    Last edited by bilyahn; 01-29-2010 at 10:08 PM.

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