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    Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    I saw this machine the other day and it goes through
    the power up and almost printed a full sheet.
    The print felt grainy and a small amount of developer mix
    is showing in the paper path just below the dv unit.
    I have never worked on this model and I do have the book.
    But I know I will still need some pointers on how not to
    screw it up.
    I found some info on xeroxforum.org that also seemed to apply.
    I will visit this account again tomorrow.

    Thanks

    DR

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    Re: Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    Check erase lamp and HVPS.

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    Re: Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    Thanks,
    I will check the book for the procedure.
    I have to remember it's just a big copier,
    that works sorta kinda the same as all the others.

    I hope


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    Re: Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    The 510 does have a number of idiosyncrasies, particularly with regard to developer dumping. You will want to clean out the D/T and BTR channels, which can fill up with developer. As mentioned above, the erase LED assembly from Xerox is a common culprit for failure. Sections of LED's will go out, causing excess charge potential in that are of the drum. This in turn causes developer dumping in that area. So if you see a concentration of developer about 2" wide, you most likely have a bad LED assembly. We have re-engineered the LED assembly to not fail, and also to provide additional light on the ends of the drum This in turn can prevent developer bead carry over on the outer edges.

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    Re: Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    technogeek2009,
    Sounds like you have worked on these before. Is there an easy way to check the lamp?
    The developer scattering I see on this unit is about 2" or so and it is in the middle.
    Any chance I could get one those re-engineered lamps if needed?

    Thanks

    DR

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    Re: Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    Why you dont read the service manual ?
    Use procedure 09-66 to check erase lamp and you'll be abble to repair it.

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    Re: Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    You can test the erase LED while still installed in the machine. However, I recommend to first remove the Erase LED assembly. Then reassemble the drum in the machine. Next, cheat the top cover interlock switch, and place the machine into diagnostics, then run 09-66. This turns the eraser LED on. I usually hold the LED assembly and gently shake it as vibration will often uncover the weaknesses in the assembly. If a section turns off, flashes, or does not light at all, you know what to do. Otherwise, I leave the LED on until the timer function turns the assembly off.

    I suspect in your case that you have a bad LED assembly from how you describe a concentration of developer in the center. If you would like to purchase an LED assembly, drop me a note cbyrne@goevergreen.net

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    Re: Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    Technogeek2009,
    Thank you for expanding on the procedure, As I have never seen this model
    and have no clue as to where to start, this will help. Should I find the lamp
    is bad I will order one from you. What is the price of the lamp assembly?

    Adriansto,
    As mentioned I am not familar with this model, I need to read the book
    for the program codes and the tear down procedure. I have to pay
    for my own mistakes. Having the book helps keep that cost down.
    And I learn more about what I am doing.


    Thank for the info

    DR
    Last edited by Desert Rat; 06-05-2012 at 07:03 PM. Reason: left out sentence

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    Re: Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    Quote Originally Posted by technogeek2009 View Post
    You can test the erase LED while still installed in the machine. However, I recommend to first remove the Erase LED assembly. Then reassemble the drum in the machine. Next, cheat the top cover interlock switch, and place the machine into diagnostics, then run 09-66. This turns the eraser LED on. I usually hold the LED assembly and gently shake it as vibration will often uncover the weaknesses in the assembly. If a section turns off, flashes, or does not light at all, you know what to do. Otherwise, I leave the LED on until the timer function turns the assembly off.

    I suspect in your case that you have a bad LED assembly from how you describe a concentration of developer in the center. If you would like to purchase an LED assembly, drop me a note cbyrne@goevergreen.net
    Hello
    I have the same problem ll-25
    I replace the erase lamp but always ll-25
    -The lamp runs on another machine-
    help me if y can

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    Re: Xerox 510 wide format code LL-25

    Here is the LL-25 RAP from the manual:
    LL-25 Charge Voltage V HIGH
    This fault will occur if the charge voltage, V high, exceeds -580 volts. This generally is a result
    of the Erase Lamp being off, the Drum is not grounded the ESV 1 probe is not working, or there
    is an open circuit in the Grid on the Charge Scorotron.
    Initial Actions
    Refer to ADJ 9.2 and perform [0904].
    Procedure
    Enter [0966] and visually check that the Erase Lamp is on. The Erase Lamp is on.
    Y N
    Refer to BSD 9.6 and trouble shoot the Charge Erase circuitry.
    Check the Drum ground for damage and contamination or an open or short circuit to ground.
    There is a short or open or drum ground is damage or contaminated.
    Y N
    Examine the Electrometer Probe (ESV 1) and the Probe Harness for damage, connectors
    not fully connected (BSD 9.1). There is damage to the Probe and/or Harness.
    Y N
    Check for an open in the Charge Scorotron Grid circuit (BSD 9.1).
    Replace the Electrometer Probe and PWB (PL 9.9).
    Clean/Repair the drum ground.

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