there's no way its the paper.

[vincent64]

Re: there's no way its the paper.

I am in SE Texas, and I do know humidity, I have seen it so bad, once on a old AR 5132, with the duplex tray, paper curled up so bad, it would not feed out at all, I ran some duplex and pulled the ADU tray out, opened it up, showed the cust. it was almost a tube of rolled up paper.

[gneebore]

Re: there's no way its the paper.

1. Back in the analog days, I used to lick down the middle of a fresh piece of paper and just the middle would be light.

Proved my point.

Been a while since I have used a similar trick. I used to take a newspaper and run a copy of it on paper that I had just taken out of the wrapper. Then I take a sheet of paper. Then I'd take another sheet of the paper from the same fresh ream and just press my hand in the middle of the fresh sheet. Then run it through the machine and make a copy of the same newspaper. You could clearly see on the second copy where I had pressed my hand onto the paper. This was with the older Canon Pc25, pc6re's and some of the mita dc1415's.

[CraigW]

Re: there's no way its the paper.

The building has old ventilation system that couldn't be upgraded because the building is a historical site.

In my town ohio university just uses "Deferred Maintenance Plan" (aka NEGLECT) treatment to their historic register building for several years then they level them.

There is a 1911 Packard building they are demoing very soon in early May, COME HELL OR HIGH WATER & 1.5 million dollar contract to demo says so.

The good news........ The green space will be done before the precious little BASTARDS return in the fall..... So it's all good.

There is significant Kirkbride building in their ownership that for YEARS had a 30 foot opening in the roof (they could care less)


Just makes me SICK.

[qbert69]

Re: there's no way its the paper.

Just tear the paper...if it has grain long, run the paper lengthwise....perpendicular to the paper path!...if it is grain short, run it crosswise to the path of travel!

If it is recycled and you have no particular grain direction, you're gonna have a bad time either orientation!

[NeoMatrix]

Re: there's no way its the paper.

As all Copier Techs know : Paper is dry wood.

Dry wood absorbs moisture.

HV electrical charge dissipates quickly to ground through moisture, and therefore no toner attraction to the paper ,meaning no image transfer to paper.

If you leave a plank of 2"x4" wood out in the sun the timber will dry out on one side and bend or curl its shape on the dried heated side. And so too moist paper will tend to curl on one side when run through a Printer/Copier fuser unit. It is also an effect from heat and mechanical pressure.

BTW. If you want to straighten any curved piece of timber or timber sheeting, wet the curled up side(ends stickup up in the air), then turn it over curl side down an leave it out in the sun for an hour or so until it goes flat. You can do this with half the length of the of timber also, just place half the length in the sun.

[Synthohol]

Re: there's no way its the paper.

I'm happy to see this thread starting discussion on a "taboo" subject with customers.
the pic was from a school that kept their cases of paper they get once a year that they keep in an outdoor shipping container and bring it in as needed.
the color paper was "incubating" for years on a shelf in a closet.
i cannot change where they get their paper from, or where to store it. i have shown them beyond a shadow of a doubt that their storage option
is lame and is generating 50-75 BS service calls a year for this.
they are trying to keep the machine filled because it does have heaters.
the calls have cut down since that visit. either they are more tolerant of removing stacker jams or the setting that slowed the machine down a bit works better than it did when i was there.
the first CBT test i took with minolta was All About Paper. (now im 6 tests away from Outward Expert )
anyhow, its nice to hear other stories on this, thank you.

[copyman]

Re: there's no way its the paper.

Hey Syn, I feel your pain bro. Bad enough to have a school under contract but add to it that crap paper!

I would charge them 1/4 to 1/2 cent more per page, unless you are making some serious money off them.

[Synthohol]

Re: there's no way its the paper.

nah, im a corporate slug just workin for the man hehe.
i work for a huge dealer as a KM specialist, not self employed.