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  • subaro
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    Thinking Healthy question ?

    Anyone into JUCING ?. If so, have you notice any significant benefits in the years or months that you have done it.

    I bought a juicer a couple of years ago [ jack lalaine ] and it's been sitting on top of the fridge since. Would like to fire it up again, but was wondering if there are any setbacks. reading online, you get various good and bad omens. Any thoughts or insights from the trusted folkswould be greatly appreciated.
    THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke
  • blackcat4866
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    Re: Thinking Healthy question ?

    One of my co-workers drinks a juice cocktail every morning. He throws nearly anything vegetable or fruit into the thing, and juices it. He says it's an interesting surprise to see what it will taste like.

    Personally I have no interest in juicing. After years of chemically ruining my sense of smell, and consequently taste, I have come to appreciate the texture of food a great deal. I like things that crunch. So why would I want to remove all the texture? I'll take my vegetables crunchy: raw carrots, raw green beans, raw jicama, and all these items pickled. =^..^=
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    • NeoMatrix
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      Yes for sure Juice up fresh fruit and vegetables when you need to.
      1.3 billion Chinese for the last 5000 years can't be that wrong.
      There is not to many overweight Asian people.
      The reasons why... simple, the Chinese have learnt the value of LIVE ENZYMES , LIVE ENZYME LIVE ENZYMES.

      Did I mention live enzymes that keep your stomach bug(s) in balance in your intestinal tract?
      The correct balance of live enzymes, vitamins and minerals is the key to keep chronic illness like
      tertiary syphilis, diabetes2 , candida(yeast), depression , etc in check.
      The best method is a cycle of raw juices once a month to boost the bodys defences.
      Try and heat your vegies with high temperature 180degC to kill of bacteria first, with out cooking the food fully.

      STAY THE F#$K AWAY FROM ANITBIOTICS unless totally absolutely necessary, and as a last resort. Long term Antibiotics and medication will strip your Live Enzymes from you intestinal tract. After stripping any darn unwanted intestinal bug can over run your intestinal tract before your healthy good stomach bug kicks in. If you do use antibiotics MAKE THE F#$K SURE you get on probiotics A.S.A.P.
      If you don't boost your probiotics quickly you could end up with something like Candida a yeast infection which strips important vitamins an mineral from your body leaving your immune system open to long term chronic illness,depression and worse, cancer. Body signs to watch out for: tired all the time, short term memory loss(brain fog) , incredible apathy (don't care do it tomorrow).

      If you get chronic illness the 4 major foods that will bring you down .
      o sugar (Candida, type bateria )
      o flour (ALOX chemical, diabetes)
      o milk ( STD bacteria)
      o canola oil (flesh eating bacteria)


      Don't fall into the trap of the quick "fix in the bottle" minerals, medication and health food fads. Go back to natural ,clean green and "Live Food" where possible. Try to consume your live foods within 24hrs otherwise the food enzymes are Dead, you can still benefit from the vitamins and minerals in the food. Keep your Red meat to a minimum. You need iron from the red meat , but if you have flesh eating bacteria in your intestinal tract the red meat will go rancid quickly in your stomach causing bloating and lower body back and leg pain.

      Learn from us IDIOTS (mioa) who have been there and done that....
      Death by chemical doctoring is a multi-trillion dollar industry.

      Good Health and Exercise is the slowest possible rate at which you can die, it improves the pain level of your body, and the pain level of your wallet.
      Last edited by NeoMatrix; 05-02-2016, 01:28 AM.
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      • subaro
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        Re: Thinking Healthy question ?

        Below is the last quote from Neomatrix reply and i have to totally agree with this statement.

        Good Health and Exercise is the slowest possible rate at which you can die, it improves the pain level of your body, and the pain level of your wallet.

        Any other health tips from you folks would be a blessings so to speak, as if you leave it up to the docs, they will pump you with pills and pharmceuticals. My mother use to dispense the bush and herb remedies, but she is long gone and i think eating right with natures supplements will go a long way in keeping from the modern day pill pushers. not to mention the GMO that is almost unavoidable.
        THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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        • NeoMatrix
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          Re: Thinking Healthy question ?

          Originally posted by subaro
          Below is the last quote from Neomatrix reply and i have to totally agree with this statement.

          Good Health and Exercise is the slowest possible rate at which you can die, it improves the pain level of your body, and the pain level of your wallet.

          Any other health tips from you folks would be a blessings so to speak, as if you leave it up to the docs, they will pump you with pills and pharmceuticals. My mother use to dispense the bush and herb remedies, but she is long gone and i think eating right with natures supplements will go a long way in keeping from the modern day pill pushers. not to mention the GMO that is almost unavoidable.

          The real meaning of the word pharmacy : To replace one toxin with another, until your body can remove it.
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          • Iowatech
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            Re: Thinking Healthy question ?

            Originally posted by NeoMatrix
            Yes for sure Juice up fresh fruit and vegetables when you need to.
            1.3 billion Chinese for the last 5000 years can't be that wrong.
            There is not to many overweight Asian people.
            The reasons why... simple, the Chinese have learnt the value of LIVE ENZYMES , LIVE ENZYME LIVE ENZYMES.

            Did I mention live enzymes that keep your stomach bug(s) in balance in your intestinal tract?
            The correct balance of live enzymes, vitamins and minerals is the key to keep chronic illness like
            tertiary syphilis, diabetes2 , candida(yeast), depression , etc in check.
            The best method is a cycle of raw juices once a month to boost the bodys defences.
            Try and heat your vegies with high temperature 180degC to kill of bacteria first, with out cooking the food fully.

            STAY THE F#$K AWAY FROM ANITBIOTICS unless totally absolutely necessary, and as a last resort. Long term Antibiotics and medication will strip your Live Enzymes from you intestinal tract. After stripping any darn unwanted intestinal bug can over run your intestinal tract before your healthy good stomach bug kicks in. If you do use antibiotics MAKE THE F#$K SURE you get on probiotics A.S.A.P.
            If you don't boost your probiotics quickly you could end up with something like Candida a yeast infection which strips important vitamins an mineral from your body leaving your immune system open to long term chronic illness,depression and worse, cancer. Body signs to watch out for: tired all the time, short term memory loss(brain fog) , incredible apathy (don't care do it tomorrow).

            If you get chronic illness the 4 major foods that will bring you down .
            o sugar (Candida, type bateria )
            o flour (ALOX chemical, diabetes)
            o milk ( STD bacteria)
            o canola oil (flesh eating bacteria)


            Don't fall into the trap of the quick "fix in the bottle" minerals, medication and health food fads. Go back to natural ,clean green and "Live Food" where possible. Try to consume your live foods within 24hrs otherwise the food enzymes are Dead, you can still benefit from the vitamins and minerals in the food. Keep your Red meat to a minimum. You need iron from the red meat , but if you have flesh eating bacteria in your intestinal tract the red meat will go rancid quickly in your stomach causing bloating and lower body back and leg pain.

            Learn from us IDIOTS (mioa) who have been there and done that....
            Death by chemical doctoring is a multi-trillion dollar industry.

            Good Health and Exercise is the slowest possible rate at which you can die, it improves the pain level of your body, and the pain level of your wallet.
            I don't suppose you could share the basic chemistry behind these claims.
            If not, that's fine. I'll just shut up and go away.

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            • subaro
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              Re: Thinking Healthy question ?

              Originally posted by Iowatech
              I don't suppose you could share the basic chemistry behind these claims.
              If not, that's fine. I'll just shut up and go away.
              I am sure he will answer you at some point. I though have read and heard all that he mentioned, [ on the web ]. The thing is , i don't know what's the truth to the claims. It gets all confusing when experts denounces another expert on the same thing. So i go by consensus and the one with more in agreement i tend to go with [ don't want to say believe] . I do know that aloe vera is an excellent healing plant, that was used whenever injury . we would cut it in small chunks and swallow it and also rub it on the swollen area. ginger is another excellent root that we used to make tea and in case of fever, as a soothing relief.
              THE ONLY THING FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING..........edmund burke

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              • allan
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                Jip.

                Going to the doctor is the leading cause of death worldwide!
                "cancer" or more practically named acidosis can be cured by nutrition!
                Not by radiation chemo or pills.
                People will suffer from a lack of knowledge.

                Every day you need.

                Air, water(balanced water with the right conductivity), Chlorophyll, enzymes, vitamins, minerals, carbohydrates, proteins amino acids and sunshine.
                Unfortunately we need to supplement these things as going organic is almost impossible.

                What you don't need.

                FDA, Money driven doctors that would only treat symptoms with pills and will cut away anything they feel like.
                Insurance will pay!!

                Pesticides, chlorine, floride, GMO's, hormone and pus filled milk and parasite loaded meat.
                Man made sugar, synthetic oil like canola or trans-fat, metals like aluminum, formaldehyde in packaging, EMF.
                All kinds of coloring and flavoring, chemical cigarette and Plastic....

                This will cut down your shopping to the produce section and the health shop not the chemist.
                There is more things we should not consume than we should.

                Consumerism and profit!

                Actual things that would makes the population healthy is not supported be the FDA.
                Natural cures get hidden or discredited!

                Juicing removes the fibre you need. And mixing stuff together could reduce its effectiveness and could lead to fermentation in the bowl.
                Eat the thing! Chewing and saliva is the first step of digestion, drinking it skips the first step.

                Enzymes will die above 88 deg C.

                The lost meaning of the word pharmakeia means witchcraft.
                Last edited by allan; 05-02-2016, 06:07 AM.
                Whatever

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                • fixthecopier
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                  As far as good health goes, I can look to my mother , who will be 76 this year. A few years ago she decided she did not want to have to live with me and my animal farm, so she started a quest to better her health. her main plan was to lose weight. She has been large, big an tall, all my life. A few years ago I had benches and chairs all over her big yard, so she could sit every 20 to 30 feet when her bad knees would hurt. Now she is about 90 pounds lighter and cuts her own grass and runs the weed eater for exercise. Her diet was and is common sense. She cut out all "whites", no sugar, white bread products, potatoes, rice ect. She said just cutting out sugar made her pain level go down a great deal. She loves to cook, so she cooks and sends the food home with me, an I share it with a couple of coworkers. Because of her, I lost weight, although her home cooked meals and deserts she sends home make it hard to keep it off.
                  The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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                  • subaro
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                    Re: Thinking Healthy question ?

                    The lost meaning of the word pharmakeia means witchcraft . from allan post.

                    Don't take allan word for it [alone ]. below is a dictionary of the origin of words













                    pharmacy (n.) late 14c., "a medicine," from Old French farmacie "a purgative" (13c.), from Medieval Latin pharmacia, from Greek pharmakeia "use of drugs, medicines, potions, or spells; poisoning, witchcraft; remedy, cure," from pharmakeus (fem. pharmakis) "preparer of drugs, poisoner, sorcerer" from pharmakon "drug, poison, philter, charm, spell, enchantment." Meaning "use or administration of drugs" is attested from c. 1400; that of "place where drugs are prepared and dispensed" is first recorded 1833. The ph- was restored 16c. in French, 17c. in English (see ph).
                    Last edited by subaro; 05-02-2016, 03:04 PM.
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                    • subaro
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                      Re: Thinking Healthy question ?

                      Did you know that 89% of the corn grown in the USA are GMO ?. doubt it, look on the usda website. There are also many GMO products that are not listed, but out there and the public is not made aware, because in the usa it is not mandatory to state if a product contains gmo. In europe it is mandatory. My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge.

                      Just throwing out a question here. How many support or don't mind eating GMO [genetically modified organisms ]?
                      Not everyone is opposed to it, some has embraced it as the future of man evolution and some see it as frankien foods. lets hear.

                      GMO 101

                      USA: Cultivation of GM plants, 2013
                      Last edited by subaro; 05-03-2016, 02:32 PM.
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                      • allan
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                        The plants gets modified to grow on depleted soil.
                        Most of the needed and intended nutrients are not present in these GMO's.

                        There is a big deficiency in sulfur and B vitamins in our diets.
                        Bad news is that sulfur works as a catalyst for nutrient absorption.
                        So it makes the problem even worse.

                        Say no to GMO!
                        Whatever

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                        • allan
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                          Whatever

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                          • SwisSeV
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                            I grew up with nutrition professionals as parents and took nutrition in college, so I know more than the average Joe.

                            There are a lot of posts here that make me raise an eyebrow to put it nicely. Be skeptical about these things, don't waste a bunch of time chasing Unicorns.

                            Here is a good bottom line for juicing:
                            Keep your diet balanced, juice or no juice.
                            Many people find it easier to get the vitamins and minerals you need from juiced vegetables because the fiber is reduced.
                            On the downside, fiber is a good thing.
                            It is easy to overload on certain nutrients when juicing, the big one being sugars.

                            I don't juice, but it is a good tool (not a cure for anything, don't buy that hype)

                            My pro tip I give people who are trying to improve their diet is to stop drinking sweet drinks like Soda and Super sweet coffees.

                            Moderation my friends.

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                            • NeoMatrix
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                              Originally posted by subaro
                              Did you know that 89% of the corn grown in the USA are GMO ?. doubt it, look on the usda website. There are also many GMO products that are not listed, but out there and the public is not made aware, because in the usa it is not mandatory to state if a product contains gmo. In europe it is mandatory. My people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge.

                              Just throwing out a question here. How many support or don't mind eating GMO [genetically modified organisms ]? Not everyone is opposed to it, some has embraced it as the future of man evolution and some see it as frankien foods. lets hear.

                              GMO 101

                              USA: Cultivation of GM plants, 2013
                              Assuming my information source is correct.
                              Scientist feed GMO soya milk to rats and mice. The 3rd generation of mice were born without reproductive organs. GMO is the reason disease will multiply rapid across the globe. You can't punch GMO DNA holes in the food chain and expect the sun to shine out of the wonderful experimental results. So if GMO removes reproductive organs then any future human race will have to use human cloning to reproduce itself. So quite possibly the days of purchasing Wall-Mart children are on the way.

                              The next most horrific beyond anything imaginable is the act of human cloning and genetic modifications. The horrors of human cloning that await our next generation of children will be nothing any Hollywood movie producer could possibly think of. It will make the days of the 3rd Reich look like a Sunday picnic. Super modified beings will be the very least thing to worry about. It will be the actions of super beings that will leave the living breathing souls in horror and despair.

                              Pandora's genetic box has been opened, I wonder how many genetic scientist have the balls to put the lid back on an walk away.
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