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They got it because they had to. If you didnt have a obamacare approved plan you would be fined,so you are forced to have it even if you dont want it.

NOPE that was changed last year NO mandated signup as another Republican way to try to kill the ACA. Now your free to have ZERO healthcare plan or take one of Mr Trumpo CHEATO plans that have limits on coverage just like the old days. With the ACA you can not be denial of coverage and NO CAPS on cost of coverage and guarantee preventive care included.
Been on it for 4 years. Without it NO COVERAGE do to preexisting.

8 plus years from the Republicans and STILL NO Better cheaper PLAN as promised! We ALL know why. VOTE 2020

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Ever since I was old enough to vote and I started following politics, It didnt matter what president was in office. My life went on just the same as the day before. No matter what the news said my life didnt change. That is until obama got into office-my life changed for the worse big time. He passed obama care and the small company I work for dropped paying for my insurance. Now I pay for my insurance,I didnt get a raise to help or anything. Now my monthly premium is sky high,My deductible is outragious and I still have to pay a big co pay to see the doctor. Now if I need to see a doctor it is cheaper to go down to the clinic and not use my insurance and just pay the doctor visit. Everything else and I mean everything under obama went way higher in price,from gas to groceries and utilities and all else. I went from a comfortable living to just scraping by under obama. He was the absolout worst president in my lifetime.

So, you're blaming Obama for the shitty way your employer treated you? Seems to me you are directing the blame the wrong way. Unless I am missing something in your statement.

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I will start this thread but the responses will be varied. I would take Obama or Romney or McCain or Bush back in a heart beat.

I think America really stepped in it this time!

Make America great again, for old white rich guys.

I am not a Republican and would have had no issue with your Just how Crazy is Donald Trump

question if you hadn't in your remarks ("great for rich old white guys") tied it to a persons color. Getting extremely sick of random Racist Anti White comments. Racism against blacks is ugly. Racism against Mexicans is ugly. Racism against Asians is ugly. Racism against Arabs is ugly. Racism against Jews is ugly.

It's still not pretty when suddenly it's against whites. I can certainly disagree with some of Trumps politics. Making an accusation of racism the basis for disagreement just to make enough chaotic noise shut down his political viewpoint is mentally weak. You should be ashamed.

99 percent of all we races do not even judge others on the basis of race. They judge others on their character and express admiration and love for good people and hate for bad people. End of story.

So pardon the strong language (uncharacteristic of me , since I favor reason over emotion) but here's an extremely heartfelt sentiment -----"Fuck All Racism".

P.S. And, it would boggle my mind if you can't even see or acknowlage the remark you made was racist. Lets see how intellectually honest you are.

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You Might Say That's All OK. But I Don't Think It's OK. VOTE 2020

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I am not a Republican and would have had no issue with your Just how Crazy is Donald Trump

question if you hadn't in your remarks ("great for rich old white guys") tied it to a persons color. Getting extremely sick of random Racist Anti White comments. Racism against blacks is ugly. Racism against Mexicans is ugly. Racism against Asians is ugly. Racism against Arabs is ugly. Racism against Jews is ugly.

It's still not pretty when suddenly it's against whites. I can certainly disagree with some of Trumps politics. Making an accusation of racism the basis for disagreement just to make enough chaotic noise shut down his political viewpoint is mentally weak. You should be ashamed.

99 percent of all we races do not even judge others on the basis of race. They judge others on their character and express admiration and love for good people and hate for bad people. End of story.

So pardon the strong language (uncharacteristic of me , since I favor reason over emotion) but here's an extremely heartfelt sentiment -----"Fuck All Racism".

P.S. And, it would boggle my mind if you can't even see or acknowlage the remark you made was racist. Lets see how intellectually honest you are.

Most American CEO's tend to be very rich white men over 50 years old.

President Trump's policy decisions have very much benefitted them personally.

"Top corporate executives have seen their pay grow by more than 1,000% over the past 40 years, nearly 100 times the rate of average workers, according to a study released this week."

CEOs see pay grow 1,000%, and now make 278 times the average worker

This trend has rapidly accelerated under President Trump and totally busts the myth that the Republican party is for fiscal conservatism. Annual deficits have exploded under Trump and will soon surpass $1T per year due to tax cuts to wealthy individuals and corporations. Whatever happened to the Tea Party cries of fiscal conservatism since Trump became President? The USA is in "drunken sailor" territory when it comes to spending.

Under Trump, the deficit has ballooned, exploding a GOP myth (opinion) - CNN

The only two Presidents in recent memory who have actually reduced the budget deficits have been Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama.

If you see my comments as white racism against very wealthy white people, you are entitled to your opinion just not the facts. I think wealthy, white US males can take care of themselves just fine.

I am way more more concerned about the other 98% of the American white population (including white old guys like myself) that struggle every day to pay their bills and get through life.

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Official on Trump's hurricane nuking idea: 'His objective is not bad'

"Apart from the fact that this might not even alter the storm, this approach neglects the problem that the released radioactive fallout would fairly quickly move with the tradewinds to affect land areas and cause devastating environmental problems," the sheet reads.


"Needless to say, this is not a good idea," it adds.

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Great way to act when a Hurricane is going to hit your home.
Hope all will be safe.

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Most American CEO's tend to be very rich white men over 50 years old.

President Trump's policy decisions have very much benefitted them personally.

"Top corporate executives have seen their pay grow by more than 1,000% over the past 40 years, nearly 100 times the rate of average workers, according to a study released this week."

CEOs see pay grow 1,000%, and now make 278 times the average worker

This trend has rapidly accelerated under President Trump and totally busts the myth that the Republican party is for fiscal conservatism. Annual deficits have exploded under Trump and will soon surpass $1T per year due to tax cuts to wealthy individuals and corporations. Whatever happened to the Tea Party cries of fiscal conservatism since Trump became President? The USA is in "drunken sailor" territory when it comes to spending.

Under Trump, the deficit has ballooned, exploding a GOP myth (opinion) - CNN

The only two Presidents in recent memory who have actually reduced the budget deficits have been Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama.

If you see my comments as white racism against very wealthy white people, you are entitled to your opinion just not the facts. I think wealthy, white US males can take care of themselves just fine.

I am way more more concerned about the other 98% of the American white population (including white old guys like myself) that struggle every day to pay their bills and get through life.

You are correct about Clinton reducing the deficit and not Trump. Obama did not reduce it either , only Clinton did a stellar great job in that respect. From Clinton's surplus--Bush gave money back to Americans.
Trump and Obama have both shamefully increased debt on a huge scale.

So I see you made it clear what I say is "opinion" and what you say are the "facts". And, by the way, I don't care if you are white as I and most people try only to consider fairly your thoughtful opinions and we don't focus on or care about your race at all. Why even take the time to inform us of that since it has no bearing at all on the validity of what you are saying. And to claim I am wrong on the facts as a way of defending your comment is again very weak. Sad you are blind to your own racially charged comment, but you clearly made it a white guy thing and a rich guy thing. You singled out in one fell swoop rich people and white people as "white guy" Trump's racist favoritism put into action. Like you can indeed see inside his very soul and know with certainty his motives.

Again, To be fair to you, my original point is that I would rather you had left color out of the equation as it serves no one and just inflames the situation and then rightfully hit Trump hard on his spending/huge deficits and other things. That would be fair game. You do make some good points. Don't "color up" the issue which is very distracting and destroy any valid points you are trying to make.

Guess I'm one of the few that don't side for him (Trump) or against him. Where he does poorly, I hit him very hard on it. But where he does well he gets his well deserved credit. Seems like rabid extreme Trump haters and extreme Trump lovers are now the norm. Poor Trump.......never gets a break when he deserves it. And the rightful complaints against him lose all credibility when it's 100 percent of the time an automatic robotic rabid preprogrammed response.

Ooops, wait a minute, I am outgunned because I see --you referenced CNN....Those guys are extremely honest.......So, to the charge that he is racist..... ok you win, I give up. No need for proof , CNN is all the proof we need. Lets just yell racist white supremacist as loud as we can. Nowadays.....it's the loud aggressive volume we batter our enemies to death with, not sound reason that matters. Poor Trump.....and poor USA. I served in the military. So, excuse the patriotism but in my humble opinion ,This is the best country on earth. Here to defend and help other nations and , a force for good not evil...I am very proud of the USA. People from all nations come here to pursue the dream that America stands for. I have traveled the world. There is no other place like it. Wish we Americans could disagree but still work together out of love for country and love for all fellow countrymen.

I , for one feel bad for Trump under that false charge. Sure wish he would stop the insane spending increasing our deficit though. On that we agree. The interest we pay on our debt has exceeded what we spend on national defense. It's very concerning.

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Originally Posted by Hansen88



Ever since I was old enough to vote and I started following politics, It didnt matter what president was in office. My life went on just the same as the day before. No matter what the news said my life didnt change. That is until obama got into office-my life changed for the worse big time. He passed obama care and the small company I work for dropped paying for my insurance. Now I pay for my insurance,I didnt get a raise to help or anything. Now my monthly premium is sky high,My deductible is outragious and I still have to pay a big co pay to see the doctor. Now if I need to see a doctor it is cheaper to go down to the clinic and not use my insurance and just pay the doctor visit. Everything else and I mean everything under obama went way higher in price,from gas to groceries and utilities and all else. I went from a comfortable living to just scraping by under obama. He was the absolout worst president in my lifetime.

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So, you're blaming Obama for the shitty way your employer treated you? Seems to me you are directing the blame the wrong way. Unless I am missing something in your statement.

No he was probably reporting exactly what happened because of Obama's policies. Same thing happened to me too. We had group insurance where I worked. I paid forty percent (500 /month)and the deductible was 1000 dollars a year. Under the "affordable care Act" all of the required coverage and costs went way way up to where even the company could not afford the cost increase. We only had ten employees. And my share of the forty percent cost went to 900 /month with a 5000 dollar deductible. Oh yeah the copay before Obamacare was 40 dollars per doctor visit. After Obamacare the copay went to 90 per visit. What was really funny because before I went to work for the company my individual health insurance was 500/month for what was called hospital indemnification. Not really insurance but they did pay or negotiated a price for services before I was admitted to a hospital. Otherwise I paid what the doctor charged with no coverage and I also paid for my own medicines. Once Obamacare went into effect the hospital indemnification policies were made illegal and were no longer available. Only thing that actually made a difference to me was if the cost of health coverage was over a certain percentage of your earnings per month then you did not pay the onerous fines. I do believe that percentage was if it was more than eight percent of your monthly income. Then I also found out that my doctor and the lab company where my routine blood tests were done had a pay up front policy. If I paid them without them having to fight with an insurance company then I got one hell of a discount. Like the quarterly blood tests went from 350 dollars per session to 135.00 and the specialist doctor visit went from 150.00 per visit to 80.00. The lab company explained they didn't have to spend all that time on the phone with the insurance company justifying the ordered tests and the same thing for the doctor. The office did not have to explain why I needed to see a specialist for stage two/three kidney failure treatment.

Then the really fun part of Obamacare when they explained the new insurance policy we were being forced into after the original company dropped us because there weren't enough employees to cover us under Obamacare. Some of the new coverage I was going to be forced to pay for. One I was being forced as part of the new policy requirements to pay for sex reassignment surgery and therapy. Two I was also being forced as a single sixty year old male to pay for pregnancy testing and childbirth coverage. Third I was also being forced to pay extra for substance abuse coverage to include , alcohol, opium and other illegal drugs, and possible testosterone or hormone abuse. These were coverage requirements that were added under the ACA act and could actually be left off of insurance coverage before then. Oh yes do not forget the part of Obamacare that was also added as a "tax" to pay for insurance premiums for people that could not afford it. Which strangely did not include me because I actually was working and earning over the maximum amount that would be free for those unable to afford insurance.

Now one thing that some may wonder about is the sex change surgery requirement. before the ACA sex change surgery was considered cosmetic surgery and an elective procedure. Most health insurance would not cover cosmetic surgery unless it was to correct the result of an injury or to correct the result of required surgical procedure. Say like scar tissue removal from after a fall .. Or breast enlargement after radical mastectomy. yes one of our secretaries had her breast enlargement surgery disapproved because it was elective and not a medical necessity. But another secretary had both breasts removed to treat a cancer and then the insurance fully covered her breast enlargement surgery to replace the lost tissue.

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This must be your Lucky Year because NOW you can buy the same old CRAP plans you had before or go with no healthcare coverage at all under the All New TRUMPO Plans. That's only if you don't have any pre=existing conditions Good Luck.
PS I pay taxes for schools but I have no kids. I also pay taxes for Fire Dept but I had no fires. etc... etc.......

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This must be your Lucky Year because NOW you can buy the same old CRAP plans you had before or go with no healthcare coverage at all under the All New TRUMPO Plans.
PS I pay taxes for schools but I have no kids. I also pay taxes for Fire Dept but I had no fires. etc... etc.......

Sorry but the plan we had before Obamacare was actually quite good. You know the one with the 1000 dollar yearly deductible and not the onerous 5000 yearly deductible under ACA coverage and the 500/month 40 percent my cost and not the 900/month dollar forty percent share for group coverage cost under Obamacare?. Or did you miss those important differences? No of course not you ignored them because it was before the idiotic Obamcare act. Yes the insurance coverage costs for the company( I no longer work there) have dropped to pre-Obamacare costs levels for group rates according to a friend that still works there. And you do not have to pay for coverage you do not want like the idiotic sex change surgery or even elective cosmetic surgery you can actually choose the type of coverage you want and do not want. gee and I guess a single male sixty years old doesn't have to buy obstetric coverage either. In other words if you want basic no frills coverage you can actually get it now instead of all the dimwitted leftist required coverage for whatever poor put upon group they support this year. And I am actually now retired and on Medicare. The short time between Obama leaving office and Trump entering I was able to retire early. I did check on individual policy costs at age 64 and they did drop to pre-Obama era levels for someone my age since there were none of the idiotic required coverage. But I was already going to stay with the no insurance since I could afford the doctor visits and lab fees a lot better without having to put up with the required insurance forms and actually very low pay-in-advance payments to the doctor/lab company.

Yes I also pay taxes for schools and fire dept etc that is normal. But paying an insurance premium for someone else is not part of what I pay taxes for. Here's a real real clue for you since you seem to not know it. Even before Obamacare if you did not have insurance you could not be turned down for medical care. If you did not have insurance and you needed care or emergency care hospitals had to take care of you. If you ever went to an emergency room before Obamacare like I did a few times to be treated (even with the hospital indemnification policy) they were actually full of people that could not afford insurance. Even way back in my younger days when I was twenty and health insurance was a whopping 25 dollars a month with a huge deductible yearly cost of 250. dollars there were people that could not afford insurance. Part of your taxes goes to pay for indigent care, part is also what healthcare companies can use as a taxable income adjustment. The problem with the ACA was then those poor people now had insurance and actually had to pay the deductible and co-pays since they now had affordable healthcare. Yes a hospital I was going to for regular treatments explained that they now had to actually charge people a copay under the ACA because they went straight to the emergency room for a cold because they had insurance coverage. Heck there is even a hospital down here that has stand alone emergency rooms to take care of the scores of people without insurance ( actually a majority of which are illegal aliens I know I have been in there working on copiers a while back too ) so they can treat the sniffles and rashes that would tax the system if they went to the full sized hospital.

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Sorry but the plan we had before Obamacare was actually quite good. You know the one with the 1000 dollar yearly deductible and not the onerous 5000 yearly deductible under ACA coverage and the 500/month 40 percent my cost and not the 900/month dollar forty percent share for group coverage cost under Obamacare?. Or did you miss those important differences? No of course not you ignored them because it was before the idiotic Obamcare act. Yes the insurance coverage costs for the company( I no longer work there) have dropped to pre-Obamacare costs levels for group rates according to a friend that still works there. And you do not have to pay for coverage you do not want like the idiotic sex change surgery or even elective cosmetic surgery you can actually choose the type of coverage you want and do not want. gee and I guess a single male sixty years old doesn't have to buy obstetric coverage either. In other words if you want basic no frills coverage you can actually get it now instead of all the dimwitted leftist required coverage for whatever poor put upon group they support this year. And I am actually now retired and on Medicare. The short time between Obama leaving office and Trump entering I was able to retire early. I did check on individual policy costs at age 64 and they did drop to pre-Obama era levels for someone my age since there were none of the idiotic required coverage. But I was already going to stay with the no insurance since I could afford the doctor visits and lab fees a lot better without having to put up with the required insurance forms and actually very low pay-in-advance payments to the doctor/lab company.

Yes I also pay taxes for schools and fire dept etc that is normal. But paying an insurance premium for someone else is not part of what I pay taxes for. Here's a real real clue for you since you seem to not know it. Even before Obamacare if you did not have insurance you could not be turned down for medical care. If you did not have insurance and you needed care or emergency care hospitals had to take care of you. If you ever went to an emergency room before Obamacare like I did a few times to be treated (even with the hospital indemnification policy) they were actually full of people that could not afford insurance. Even way back in my younger days when I was twenty and health insurance was a whopping 25 dollars a month with a huge deductible yearly cost of 250. dollars there were people that could not afford insurance. Part of your taxes goes to pay for indigent care, part is also what healthcare companies can use as a taxable income adjustment. The problem with the ACA was then those poor people now had insurance and actually had to pay the deductible and co-pays since they now had affordable healthcare. Yes a hospital I was going to for regular treatments explained that they now had to actually charge people a copay under the ACA because they went straight to the emergency room for a cold because they had insurance coverage. Heck there is even a hospital down here that has stand alone emergency rooms to take care of the scores of people without insurance ( actually a majority of which are illegal aliens I know I have been in there working on copiers a while back too ) so they can treat the sniffles and rashes that would tax the system if they went to the full sized hospital.

Yes I had heathcare plans via company also , every year price was higher and deductibles went up than every couple of years it would change completely.

This must be your Lucky Year because NOW you can buy the same old CRAP plans you had before or go with no healthcare coverage at all under the All New TRUMPO Plans.



TOO much BS to comment on. Yes the old days when people had caps on coverage, insurance companies could and did charge more for women , when insurance companies could and did denial coverage do to pre-existing conditions, Yes you could be turned down for Health Insurance and still can if you don't have an ACA Plan do to pre-existing conditions. Yes Heath-care costs have up and Mr TRUMP has NOT help by his actions to kill the ACA. It's not a question if your going to need it , it's when. I could list all the benefits of the ACA but think I would be wasting my time.
Essential health benefits ensure that health plans cover care that patients need

EHB requirements ensure that everyone in the individual and small group health insurance markets has access to comprehensive coverage that actually covers the services they need. These essential health benefits fall into 10 categories:

1. Ambulatory patient services (outpatient services)
2. Emergency services
3. Hospitalization
4. Maternity and newborn care
5. Mental health and substance use disorder services, including behavioral health treatment
6. Prescription drugs
7. Rehabilitative and habilitative services (those that help patients acquire, maintain, or improve skills necessary for daily functioning) and devices
8. Laboratory services
9. Preventive and wellness services and chronic disease management
10. Pediatric services, including oral and vision care

The Affordable Care Act eliminated caps on how much coverage people got for these essential health benefits

The Affordable Care Act’s requirement that essential health benefits be covered without annual dollar caps provides patients with more health benefits and a lesser financial burden. While plans before the ACA stated that they covered many of these services, actual coverage was often uneven—patients often faced unexpected dollar limits on services that were technically covered by their plans, forcing them to pay the remainder of costs.

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Yes I had heathcare plans via company also , every year price was higher and deductibles went up than every couple of years it would change completely.



The Affordable Care Act’s requirement that essential health benefits be covered without annual dollar caps provides patients with more health benefits and a lesser financial burden. While plans before the ACA stated that they covered many of these services, actual coverage was often uneven—patients often faced unexpected dollar limits on services that were technically covered by their plans, forcing them to pay the remainder of costs.

You obviously have completely bought the drivel about how great the ACA was. Too bad it was also a disaster for a whole lot of people. There used to be another ,now out of business website that had a lot of discussion about how the ACA screwed things up for them. Or increased premiums so much they could not afford health insurance, like the increased price to pay for required coverage for birth control pills for sixty year old men one of the dumber provisions of the Aca, anymore but were going to be fined if they didn't pay the increased premiums.. BTW I was in that group of people that lost my insurance under the ACA and could not afford the newer more expensive policies being sold. But I was also in the group being a single person who earned more than the poverty level so I did not qualify for a subsidized policy. Yeah I earned over 15 k that year and the poverty level for a single person was less than 12 k per year.. Kind of hard to be able to pay for health insurance if the blasted policy costs more than 1300 month. I had insurance before the act and it covered all pre-existing conditions with a workplace group policy. However it did not cover birth control pills for me a late fifties single male. I know a whole lot about getting insurance with a pre-existing condition too. In some cases a year was the length of time for denying coverage of pre-existing conditions. In South Carolina they could limit coverage of pre-existing condition coverage according to the disability. Kind of hard to force someone to cover treatment for a cancerous growth the same day you sign up. Much like I ran into when I tried to get even, under Obamacare, coverage for treatment of chronic kidney disease. Coverage was actually going to be limited for the first year. Or as one insurance agent put it. Why in the hell would I sign you up for insurance coverage for a broken leg if you crawled in here with a broken leg before you actually paid me for a policy? Yes I did get turned down for coverage of my kidney disease for the first year under Obamacare after our group policy was discontinued at work and I tried to get insurance on my own.. But when you have a group policy that before the ACA cost about 900 a month per person in the group with coverage that did not exclude pre-existing conditions and then the least expensive plan after the act is in effect goes to over 2000 a month like it was for the company I worked for I say the plan is a disaster. There were also companies that provided affordable plans before Obamacare at a lower price and because of that they also did limit maximums. Again you got what you paid for. If you wanted a gold plated covered everything including getting tattoo removal than you paid for it. If you wanted basic catastrophic coverage then you paid less. But and I did actually buy a policy at age fifty that had the dual pricing quote. If I wanted limited coverage they would provide that for a savings to me on my monthly premiums. If I wanted greater coverage I could also pay more for it too and get triple the lower yearly maximum for a third more per monthly premium increase. It was after all my choice to decide on what coverage I wanted. Back then the lower maximum for that policy that year was 250,000 dollars, the tripled maximum became 750,000 There were other companies with policy quotes without a maximum yearly benefit and some others with an actual lower yearly amount too. Of course the monthly fees reflected the differences in price too. But you actually had to ask what the coverage was you were paying for while you were actually talking to an agent. Not just sign up for the cheapest one and then find out it had a limited coverage amount. Oh yes and one other thing too . And one of the other red herrings about Obamacare is the actual numbers of people who lost their insurance because the act made what insurance they had illegal to keep but did get other more expensive are part of the amount reported and some that actually got subsidized insurance after their then current policy was made illegal, Plus the numbers of insured people added were inflated by putting them on Medicaid and claiming that was now their insurance

Oh yes one other thing The ACA is still in effect because you can still buy an ACA policy so the dimwitted nonsense you have spouted about Trump killing the plan is a bunch of bull dung. Just for the record here is a website with actual amounts of out of pocket expenses and you can get a quote too The website was originally published in 2014 but has been updated with current information in may 2019. Actually from what I have read at the website the only thing Trump has done to Obamacare mandates is order the agencies to be more lenient when enforcing the mandated coverage and fees for NOT having the mandated coverage and reporting that on your tax return. So if you decide to go without paying for insurance you can and the actual agency checking is the one that looks at line 61 on your tax return.

Out-of-pocket Maximum Limits on Health Plans - Obamacare Facts

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The Affordable Care Act eliminated caps on how much coverage people got for these essential health benefits

I have never had a plan that had an annual cap on coverage. I have had plans that had lifetime caps on coverage, usually in the range of $1 million plus, for specific chronic catastrophic coverage. They did how ever have annual stop loss amounts, both individual and family. That was a stop loss for the person covered, not the insurance company.

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Or increased premiums so much they could not afford health insurance, like the increased price to pay for required coverage for birth control pills for sixty year old men one of the dumber provisions of the Aca, anymore but were going to be fined if they didn't pay the increased premiums.

Guess you don't mind if women pay for your ED problem Viagra or prostate problems.


Hello Too Much Crapo information to reply. ACA is for ALL 50 states and so are the benefits.

PS your web link is to a third party site the real information is healthcare.gov

Get 2019 health coverage. Health Insurance Marketplace | HealthCare.gov


NOPE that was changed last year NO mandated signup as another Republican way to try to kill the ACA. Now your free to have ZERO healthcare plan or take one of Mr Trumpo CHEATO plans that have limits on coverage just like the old days. With the ACA you can not be denial of coverage and NO CAPS on cost of coverage and guarantee preventive care included.
Been on it for 4 years. Without it NO COVERAGE do to preexisting.

8 plus years from the Republicans and STILL NO Better cheaper PLAN as promised! We ALL know why. VOTE 2020