Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

[Copier Addict]

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His followers like this kind of rhetoric because they honestly believe they are part of the "us" and not the "them". What they fail to realise is that with authoritarian leaders there really is no "us". Once they "root out the vermin" authoritarian leaders set their sights on everyone else. In their minds everyone is a "them".

[BillyCarpenter]

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His followers like this kind of rhetoric because they honestly believe they are part of the "us" and not the "them". What they fail to realise is that with authoritarian leaders there really is no "us". Once they "root out the vermin" authoritarian leaders set their sights on everyone else. In their minds everyone is a "them".

Do I need to post "the list" once again on your boy, Trudeau?

[Copier Addict]

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Do I need to post "the list" once again on your boy, Trudeau?

Why are you asking me. I couldn't care less what you post.
Trudeau is an idiot as far as I am concerned. Not leadership material.

Having said that, he is still a better choice than any of the divisive conservative leaders we have to choose from here.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Colorado Supreme Court removes Trump from 2024 ballot


"Their opinion is unassailable." Prominent former conservative federal judge hails Colorado court's decision


The decision by Colorado’s Supreme Court Tuesday to remove former President Donald Trump from the state's 2024 ballot is “unassailable,” according to former federal appellate judge and prominent conservative J. Michael Luttig.

“The individual justices of the Colorado Supreme Court brought honor to their court as well to the state and federal judiciaries with their opinion tonight in this historic case,” said Luttig . Tuesday, describing their "meticulous" efforts to address all the issues involved in the case.
“Their opinion is unassailable under the objective law of the federal constitution and section 3 of the 14th Amendment. The Supreme Court of the United States ought to affirm this decision today,” he added.

Luttig, who holds bona fide conservative credentials with longstanding ties to the Supreme Court, has been an outspoken critic of Trump and has – along with liberal law professor Laurence Tribe – advocated for the use of the 14th amendment to bar the former president from running for office.

The former judge pushed back on arguments against the strength of the Colorado case – which have pointed at several similar cases that have failed – arguing instead that the Colorado Supreme Court is the first “appellate court in any state, to rule on the applicability of section 3 to the former president. The other cases that have been decided have been decided on state law grounds and/or jurisdictional grounds. So this case stands alone.”

Luttig also challenged the opinion penned by one of the three dissenters on the seven-member Colorado Supreme Court who said he would have dismissed the challenge to Trump’s eligibility.

“I called it unassailable because, as you noted, the preeminent constitutional scholar of our time, Professor Laurence Tribe, and I have been studying this for three years now in the wake of January 6th. Professor Tribe has been studying section 3 of the 14th Amendment literally for his entire career. So, when we say…that the opinion is unassailable, that means he and I have taken into account every single argument contrary to every point made by the court today and concluding all of the contrary evidence to the opinion tonight – and it is unassailable,” Luttig said.

He added that the US Supreme Court will “have to decide what the meaning of an insurrection or rebellion is for purposes of the 14th Amendment. And that's what the Supreme Court of Colorado did today, and its reasoning and its support for that conclusion is also unassailable.”

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Tuesday's 4-3 ruling is stayed until January 4 because of likely appeals. Three justices on the Colorado Supreme Court dissented.

[BBM]

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Tuesday's 4-3 ruling is stayed until January 4 because of likely appeals. Three justices on the Colorado Supreme Court dissented.

The U.S. supreme court will decide this

[bsm2]

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The U.S. supreme court will decide this

Yep Guilty as charged


Keep whining

[Setright]

Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

His followers like this kind of rhetoric because they honestly believe they are part of the "us" and not the "them". What they fail to realise is that with authoritarian leaders there really is no "us". Once they "root out the vermin" authoritarian leaders set their sights on everyone else. In their minds everyone is a "them".

I don't support Trump or ANY other politician, because I am almost 50 years old, and everyone my age ought to know that NO politicians are trustworthy.

People tend to think that I like Trump, because I like to call out the media when they start relentlessly campaigning against people they don't like. That is not journalism, that is propaganda.

With that in mind: Trump is not a dictator. I am unable to read his mind, but I doubt that he has any ambitions of becoming one either.



Banning him from the ballot, citing "insurrection", is so obviously just part of the plan to constantly discredit him on bogus charges. The really funny thing is that all the false (and/or unproved accusations) against Trump only make him stronger, and grows his support.
It surprises me that the left-leaning aren't smarter about all this. Let Trump be himself, that should discourage support, he doesn't need help.


With respect to insurrection: Really? A group of unarmed people were going to overthrow the government by breaking into their office building? Weren't those people Republicans? Don't they all own guns? Why didn't they bring them?

It was a demonstration, and like many of those before and after, there were a handful of sinister people amongst the crowd. This is not the only demonstration to turn nasty and dangerous in recent years in the US of A.

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[Copier Addict]

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I don't support Trump or ANY other politician, because I am almost 50 years old, and everyone my age ought to know that NO politicians are trustworthy.

People tend to think that I like Trump, because I like to call out the media when they start relentlessly campaigning against people they don't like. That is not journalism, that is propaganda.

With that in mind: Trump is not a dictator. I am unable to read his mind, but I doubt that he has any ambitions of becoming one either.



Banning him from the ballot, citing "insurrection", is so obviously just part of the plan to constantly discredit him on bogus charges. The really funny thing is that all the false (and/or unproved accusations) against Trump only make him stronger, and grows his support.
It surprises me that the left-leaning aren't smarter about all this. Let Trump be himself, that should discourage support, he doesn't need help.


With respect to insurrection: Really? A group of unarmed people were going to overthrow the government by breaking into their office building? Weren't those people Republicans? Don't they all own guns? Why didn't they bring them?

It was a demonstration, and like many of those before and after, there were a handful of sinister people amongst the crowd. This is not the only demonstration to turn nasty and dangerous in recent years in the US of A.

Firstly, trumpy being himself is what draws the maga crowd to him. They believe someone like trumpy is strong. When in fact people like trumpy are actually weak and scared. That's why he constantly calls the press fake. He doesn't have the mental strength to accept criticism.
BTW. Have you not listened to the recording of trumpy show classified documents to people and admitting that he didn't declassify them?
That means he knew they were still classified and thus illegal for him to possess. And it's also illegal to show them to people.

Secondly, if you call the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol a "demonstration" you aren't looking at the same footage I am.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Firstly, trumpy being himself is what draws the maga crowd to him. They believe someone like trumpy is strong. When in fact people like trumpy are actually weak and scared. That's why he constantly calls the press fake. He doesn't have the mental strength to accept criticism.
BTW. Have you not listened to the recording of trumpy show classified documents to people and admitting that he didn't declassify them?
That means he knew they were still classified and thus illegal for him to possess. And it's also illegal to show them to people.

Secondly, if you call the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol a "demonstration" you aren't looking at the same footage I am.

copier addict prefers strong leaders like Trudeau and Biden Real strong men. lol

And he supported BLM & Antifa. In fact, he tried to convince me that Antifa was only in my imagination.

[Copier Addict]

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copier addict prefers strong leaders like Trudeau and Biden Real strong men. lol

And he supported BLM & Antifa. In fact, he tried to convince me that Antifa was only in my imagination.

When the only alternatives are divisive people like poilievre and trumpy you're damn right I prefer Trudeau and Biden. It doesn't mean I think they are the best choices. Only the best choices of what's available. And I've been pretty clear that I believe Trudeau is not a good leader. Is your memory bad?

[BillyCarpenter]

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When the only alternatives are divisive people like poilievre and trumpy you're damn right I prefer Trudeau and Biden. It doesn't mean I think they are the best choices. Only the best choices of what's available. And I've been pretty clear that I believe Trudeau is not a good leader. Is your memory bad?

Interesting. You don't think Trudeau and Biden are divisive?

[Copier Addict]

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Interesting. You don't think Trudeau and Biden are divisive?

Are you going to bring up the truck drivers who parked in a city and blocked streets, revved engines, blew horns and played loud music for weeks again?

[BillyCarpenter]

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Are you going to bring up the truck drivers who parked in a city and blocked streets, revved engines, blew horns and played loud music for weeks again?

I asked you a question. You said Trump and Poilievre are divisive.

I'll give you a couple of areas where Biden is divisive.

1. Allowing a flood of illegals into the country and then lying to us that the border is secure.

2. Trying to force Americans into pretending that men can be women and vice-versa.


Here's a bonus.

3. Supporting BLM and Antifa.


Divisive is all in the eye of the beholder.