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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Originally posted by Phil B.
    So is the government going to buy us all 2 of the reVOLT probably the shittiest elec car on the market.

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    The US gov't will replace only its fleet of gasoline powered vehicles.

    It does plan to assist electric vehicles owners by installing many more electric charging stations across the country creating 1,000s of jobs.

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    • BillyCarpenter
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      #437
      Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
      The US gov't will replace only its fleet of gasoline powered vehicles.

      It does plan to assist electric vehicles owners by installing many more electric charging stations across the country creating 1,000s of jobs.


      Where's the electricity coming from to power the charging stations? Wind, solar, coal, natural gas? Sounds like it's gonna be a while before we're totally green. Say like....100 years. California had rolling blackouts last year. Not very comfy.
      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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      • SalesServiceGuy
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        Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        Where's the electricity coming from to power the charging stations? Wind, solar, coal, natural gas? Sounds like it's gonna be a while before we're totally green. Say like....100 years. California had rolling blackouts last year. Not very comfy.
        President Biden's plan is to eliminate America's fossil fuel dependency by 2035 creating millions of new jobs along the way.

        Tesla has plans to create a new all electric tractor trailer for the trucking industry. It already has a full order backlog with the likes of Fedex, walmart and Amazon willing to purchase every truck they can get.

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        • Copier Addict
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          #439
          Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
          ...if you do not put the work in, you will not hear the facts.
          It's time to realise that some people don't want their horizons widened with information that may sway their built-in biases.
          Queue the "you are a great example of that" from Billy.

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

            Originally posted by copier addict
            It's time to realise that some people don't want their horizons widened with information that may sway their built-in biases.
            Queue the "you are a great example of that" from Billy.
            Is that the way it works? You and huckleberry want me to watch an hour long video in order to verify the truthfulness of your statement? I don't think I'll do that today. And tomorrow ain't looking too good, either.
            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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            • Copier Addict
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              #441
              Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
              Is that the way it works? You and huckleberry want me to watch an hour long video in order to verify the truthfulness of your statement? I don't think I'll do that today. And tomorrow ain't looking too good, either.
              Watch it, don't watch it. My level of caring one way or the other doesn't move the needle. I was simply pointing out the obvious.

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              • FrohnB
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                Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                Joe Biden is in California trying to defend Gay-Boy Newsome, and trying to blame the fires there on "climate change". What a fucking JOKE!!

                California "wildfires":
                Environmentalists, climate alarmists, and mainstream mediahas been charged

                According to Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Anderson,


                -Bikini-clad woman charged with arson in fire near Lake Tahoe - L.A. Times

                -Western Wildfires Are Due to Arson and Stupidity, Not Climate Change

                -Cal Fire arrested 44 arson suspects during first 4 months of 2021 - ABC 10

                Don't let them fool you into thinking these fires were caused by anything other than arson.
                Sure, the pictures and videos are scary, but "climate change" is not to blame. Instead, people with matches are to blame!


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                • SalesServiceGuy
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                  Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                  Originally posted by FrohnB
                  Joe Biden is in California trying to defend Gay-Boy Newsome, and trying to blame the fires there on "climate change". What a fucking JOKE!!

                  California "wildfires":
                  Environmentalists, climate alarmists, and mainstream mediahas been charged

                  According to Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Anderson,


                  -Bikini-clad woman charged with arson in fire near Lake Tahoe - L.A. Times


                  -Western Wildfires Are Due to Arson and Stupidity, Not Climate Change


                  -Cal Fire arrested 44 arson suspects during first 4 months of 2021 - ABC 10



                  Don't let them fool you into thinking these fires were caused by anything other than arson.
                  Sure, the pictures and videos are scary, but "climate change" is not to blame. Instead, people with matches are to blame!


                  .. you seem to be intent on picking a fight. Few people still hang onto the old concept that climate change is not manmade and rapidly escalating out of control.

                  A large part of President Biden's $3.5T "Build Back Better" campaign is earmarked to slow down climate change that so regularly devastates large parts of the USA.

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                  • SalesServiceGuy
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                    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                    Biden says climate change causing severe weather is 'no longer subject to debate'


                    President Biden said that severe weather and wildfires that the country has seen in recent weeks is caused by man-made climate change, arguing that the point is settled.

                    "We know what the driver is, climate change. We know what's causing climate change, human activity," Biden said during an appearance at Colorado's National Renewable Energy Laboratory Tuesday. "This is no longer subject to debate."

                    President Biden warned that the problem of climate change was in dire need of being addressed, arguing that this was a "decisive decade" in the battle against the problem.

                    "We don't have a lot of time," Biden said. "We don't have much more than 10 years… for real. This is a decisive decade."

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                    • FrohnB
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                      #445
                      Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                      Biden says climate change causing severe weather is 'no longer subject to debate'


                      President Biden said that severe weather and wildfires that the country has seen in recent weeks is caused by man-made climate change, arguing that the point is settled.

                      Puh-Leez!
                      You can refer to my last post (added below) about the wildfires, which I'll admit, we're "man-made", but not "climate change". Maybe "man-made landscape change".
                      The point is hardly settled.
                      Still plenty of debate and research to be done.





                      Originally posted by FrohnB
                      Joe Biden is in California trying to defend Gay-Boy Newsome, and trying to blame the fires there on "climate change". What a fucking JOKE!!

                      California "wildfires":
                      Environmentalists, climate alarmists, and mainstream mediahas been charged

                      According to Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Anderson,


                      -Bikini-clad woman charged with arson in fire near Lake Tahoe - L.A. Times


                      -Western Wildfires Are Due to Arson and Stupidity, Not Climate Change


                      -Cal Fire arrested 44 arson suspects during first 4 months of 2021 - ABC 10



                      Don't let them fool you into thinking these fires were caused by anything other than arson.


                      Omertà

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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        #446
                        Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                        Originally posted by FrohnB
                        Puh-Leez!
                        You can refer to my last post (added below) about the wildfires, which I'll admit, we're "man-made", but not "climate change". Maybe "man-made landscape change".
                        The point is hardly settled.
                        Still plenty of debate and research to be done.
                        ... no debate among decision makers.

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                        • FrohnB
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                          Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                          ... no debate among decision makers.
                          "Decision Makers"? You mean "Dictators"! LOL!
                          Omertà

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                          • Wild Bill
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                            #448
                            Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                            The fires here in California were not caused by "Global Warming" They were caused by Sparks and Non-existent forest management.
                            Izzy

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                            • Phil B.
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                              #449
                              Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                              Originally posted by Wild Bill
                              The fires here in California were not caused by "Global Warming" They were caused by Sparks and Non-existent forest management.
                              I read where a liberal college prof set at least one of those fires.

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                              • SalesServiceGuy
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                                Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

                                Department of Energy chief says ‘our hair should be on fire’ after summer of widespread climate disasters


                                • Climate change became a personal event for a third of Americans this summer, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Energy Jennifer Granholm said on Wednesday.
                                • “Our hair should be on fire,” Granholm said in an event for Climate Week NYC. “We have lived through a summer — we all have seen it — where nearly one in three Americans have lived through, now, a climate disaster.”
                                • Urgent efforts to decarbonize global industries will be expensive and will ultimately create jobs, Granholm underscored on Wednesday.


                                Earlier this month, the Washington Post published its own analysis of federal disaster declarations, which showed almost a third of Americans live in a county that was affected by a weather disaster during a three month period. That includes the heat dome in the Northwest, flash floods, drought and wildfires.

                                Urgent efforts to decarbonize global industries will be expensive and will ultimately create jobs, Granholm underscored on Wednesday.

                                “By the end of this decade, the global market for clean energy and carbon reduction technologies is going to reach $23 trillion — at a minimum,” Granholm said. “And so we want to corner that market by building clean energy supply chains and solutions here, sourced in America with American labor.”

                                Those jobs would be located across the U.S. and would vary in required skillset, she said. The Department of Energy is also working to ensure those jobs would be represented by unions, Granholm said.

                                Granholm said the U.S. could see clean energy transition jobs opening up for engineers, maintenance workers, pipe fitters, plasterers, painters, plumbers, carpenters, bricklayers, boilermakers, autoworkers, ironworkers, linemen and journeymen.
                                Fossil fuel energy workers will have the opportunity to transition into clean energy jobs, too, she said.

                                “We believe that clean energy jobs that offer the chance to join a union are going to address that inequality issue,” Granholm said. “It is going to lift millions of families into the middle class.”

                                And work has to happen fast, she said.

                                “We had our biggest year last year with respect to installed gigawatts of wind and solar, but we’ve got to double, triple, quadruple that amount,” Granholm said. “So we can not rest, it is all about deployment and getting that clean energy on the grid.”

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