Re: The War in Ukraine
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Re: The War in Ukraine
The Facts on ‘De-Nazifying’ Ukraine
In this lengthy article there are several key points.
The Facts on 'De-Nazifying' Ukraine - FactCheck.org
A statement signed by more than 300 historians who study genocide, Nazism and World War II said Putin’s rhetoric about de-Nazifying fascists among Ukraine’s elected leadership is “propaganda.”
“Neo-Nazi, far right and xenophobic groups do exist in Ukraine, like in pretty much any other country, including Russia,” Finkel said. “They are vocal and can be prone to violence but they are numerically small, marginal and their political influence at the state level is non-existent. That is not to say that Ukraine doesn’t have a far-right problem. It does. But I would consider the KKK in the US and skinheads and neo-Nazi groups in Russia a much bigger problem and threat than the Ukrainian far right.”
One of the volunteer paramilitary regiments at the forefront of the battle with Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine was a group called the Azov battalion, which was founded by members of two neo-Nazi groups. One of the group’s organizers, Andriy Biletsky, is a white supremacist, who in 2014 wrote, “The historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival. A crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.”
According to Mierzejewski-Voznyak, the profile of the far-right paramilitary groups also received “disproportionate media attention not only in Russia but also in the West. The impact of these and similar organizations on both Ukrainian politics and society has since been greatly exaggerated in Russian state media and also in some West European journalistic accounts.”
The Azov battalion, which has about 1,000 members, represents a small minority of the overall Ukrainian military. As the BBC reported, the Ukrainian armed forces number some 250,000, and the National Guard — of which Azov is a part — has around 50,000 members.
Russian claims about neo-Nazi influence in Ukraine did not begin just prior to the invasion of Ukraine this year. Putin and other Russian officials have been characterizing Ukrainians as neo-Nazi fascists since Russia invaded Crimea eight years ago, Tabarovsky said.
“The primary reason that the Kremlin is doing this is because the defeat of the Nazis is the high point of modern Russian history,” Umland said. “It is a major reference point for the Russian national identity. ‘We secured the victory over Hitler’ — is a principal source of Russian pride.”
“Far right extremists do exist in Ukraine,” he said. “The Ukrainians are not a nation of angels.”
Russian propaganda “gives the altogether minor Ukrainian right-wing extremist groups a disproportionate political relevance as an allegedly dominant phenomenon. In principle, you can do something like that with any country, make minor problematic aspects look salient and demonize every country of the world.”
“It’s a fairly obvious and rather successful political-psychological trick to justify the war among ordinary Russians,” Umland said.
“Ukraine has a small, right-wing nationalist contingent like many countries, including France, Germany, the USA, and — not least — Russia,” Nathans told us via email. “Neo-Nazi elements are not present in Zelensky’s government to the best of my knowledge. In my professional view, the alleged threat of neo-Nazism in Ukraine and genocide against ethnic Russians there (Putin used to mention Ukrainian Jews, but he dropped that line after a Jew was elected president), is simply propaganda.”
“It’s just a made-up story,” Tabarovsky said. “It’s not why he went into the Ukraine. Putin needs to justify the war for his people.”Comment
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Re: The War in Ukraine
Your welcome????
Now back to your chicken shit tendencies to attack certain people on one side of the political spectrum for things while giving a free ride to certain people on the other side of the political spectrum for the same things.
Are you finally going to be an adult and call him out. And before you get all twisted up, I of course mean trumps praise of Putin's invasion of Ukraine.Comment
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Now you're lying. Trump in no way praised Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Your lie serves no purpose other than to further your agenda.
Trump called a propaganda tactic by Putin a genius move.
Let me break it down for you. I think the attack on Pearl Harbor was a genius move by the Japs. Does that mean that I supported Japan? Don't be silly.Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.Comment
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Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.Comment
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Re: The War in Ukraine
... I imagine recent thread conversations are similar to what it must be like for the Ukrainian peace negotiators talking to the Russians.Comment
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Re: The War in Ukraine
Putin Signs the Order: Gas to Be Cut Off Unless World Leaders Meet His Demand
I feel like he has lost his mind.
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