Green Jobs

[Copier Addict]

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You need to study a little history. Like Three Mile Island and Chernobyl. Reactor 4 at Chernobyl suffered a complete melt down on April 26, 1986. The surrounding area in Ukraine is still a radiation contaminated region. That does sound clean and environmentally friendly to me.

What kind of argument is that? There are coal mines in Kentucky that are burning underground and will continue to burn for the foreseeable future.
Oil refineries can burn.
Not all nuclear power plants meltdown.

[Phil B.]

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What kind of argument is that? There are coal mines in Kentucky that are burning underground and will continue to burn for the foreseeable future.
Oil refineries can burn.
Not all nuclear power plants meltdown.

The effects of a meltdown are far worse than your other two options.
Wider area of contamination.

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[Copier Addict]

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The effects of a meltdown are far worse than your other two options.
Wider area of contamination.

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Coal burning underground for hundreds of years is not a good thing

[slimslob]

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What kind of argument is that? There are coal mines in Kentucky that are burning underground and will continue to burn for the foreseeable future.
Oil refineries can burn.
Not all nuclear power plants meltdown.

Then consider this, spent nuclear fuel stays a radiation hazard for extended periods of time with Half-lives as high as 24,000,000 years. Spent fuel rods need to be stored until the radiation drops to a safe level.

https://www.nrc.gov/waste/spent-fuel-storage.html

There very few licensed sites in the US for dry storage so most is still stored in cooling pools at the reactor site. But what happens if a reactor site is hit by an earthquake, tornado, hurricane or tsunami? Remember the 2011 earthquake and tsunami that destroyed the Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Plant in northern Japan? And there is the possibility of terrorist action. They could damage the reactor on the cooling pool or even steal rod to use in the making of dirty bombs.The following is from 10 years ago but the concerns still exist.
Safer Storage of Spent Nuclear Fuel | Union of Concerned Scientists.

[Tricky]

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The effects of a meltdown are far worse than your other two options.
Wider area of contamination.

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How Chernobyl made Welsh sheep radioactive and paralysed some farms for 26 years

The Chernobyl disaster in April, 1986, was the first - and most disastrous - nuclear accident in history.

The blast created deadly radioactive fallout 400 times larger than the Hiroshima bomb and it's thought that thousands of people in Ukraine and the surrounding countries died as a result.

The town is still uninhabitable today.

How Chernobyl made Welsh sheep radioactive and paralysed some farms for 26 years - Wales Online

[BillyCarpenter]

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I think everyone is for clean energy. What some of us are against is artificially propping it up and creating unecessary suffering in the process. Liberals are acting on emotion and it's creating needless hardship. Look to Canada to see the pain it's causing. Energy prices there are about to skyrocket.

[Copier Addict]

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Then consider this, spent nuclear fuel stays a radiation hazard for extended periods of time with Half-lives as high as 24,000,000 years. Spent fuel rods need to be stored until the radiation drops to a safe level.

https://www.nrc.gov/waste/spent-fuel-storage.html

There very few licensed sites in the US for dry storage so most is still stored in cooling pools at the reactor site. But what happens if a reactor site is hit by an earthquake, tornado, hurricane or tsunami? Remember the 2011 earthquake and tsunami that destroyed the Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Plant in northern Japan? And there is the possibility of terrorist action. They could damage the reactor on the cooling pool or even steal rod to use in the making of dirty bombs.The following is from 10 years ago but the concerns still exist.
Safer Storage of Spent Nuclear Fuel | Union of Concerned Scientists.

Bad things will happen. You aren't telling me anything I don't already know. Nothing is without risk.

[Copier Addict]

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I think everyone is for clean energy. What some of us are against is artificially propping it up and creating unecessary suffering in the process. Liberals are acting on emotion and it's creating needless hardship. Look to Canada to see the pain it's causing. Energy prices there are about to skyrocket.

So, in saying that, you must be against government subsidies to the oil and gas industry.

[BillyCarpenter]

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So, in saying that, you must be against government subsidies to the oil and gas industry.

Do you understand what a subsidie is? It's a lot of tax breaks and I don't have a problem giving a tax break to oil or clean energy. But then again, I'm all for starving the government and putting an end to wasteful spending. You, on the other hand, want to grow the government and get more free shit.

[Copier Addict]

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Do you understand what a subsidie is? It's a lot of tax breaks and I don't have a problem giving a tax break to oil or clean energy. But then again, I'm all for starving the government and putting an end to wasteful spending. You, on the other hand, want to grow the government and get more free shit.

I guess this means you actually AREN'T against artificially propping up industries. Why didn't you just say that? It would have saved time

[BillyCarpenter]

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I guess this means you actually AREN'T against artificially propping up industries. Why didn't you just say that? It would have saved time

You're not exactly the best person for discussion on any topic but I'll give it a try.

Biden is attempting to prop up green energy by hurting the oil and gas companies thus driving up prices to force the consumer to go green. It's stupidity at its finest. But you're all for driving up prices on oil and gas.

[Copier Addict]

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You're not exactly the best person for discussion on any topic but I'll give it a try.

Biden is attempting to prop up green energy by hurting the oil and gas companies thus driving up prices to force the consumer to go green. It's stupidity at its finest. But you're all for driving up prices on oil and gas.

Try to stay on topic, the topic you actually broached. Are you or are you not for artificially propping up industries? You're kinda all over the place. It sounds like you think it's okay only if it's an industry of your choosing.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Try to stay on topic, the topic you actually broached. Are you or are you not for artificially propping up industries? You're kinda all over the place. It sounds like you think it's okay only if it's an industry of your choosing.

Can you read? I clearly stated that I'm fine with giving tax breaks to oil and green energy. You're the guy that only wants that for green energy and not oil.

You're also for diving up prices on oil to force green energy in the market. You're not an honest broker because if you were, you'd admit it. You have in the past.

[Copier Addict]

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Can you read? I clearly stated that I'm fine with giving tax breaks to oil and green energy. You're the guy that only wants that for green energy and not oil.

You're also for diving up prices on oil to force green energy in the market. You're not an honest broker because if you were, you'd admit it. You have in the past.

Hmmmm. You'll have to point out where I said any of that. Or is it something you just made up, as usual. Talk about a dishonest debater.

[BillyCarpenter]

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Hmmmm. You'll have to point out where I said any of that. Or is it something you just made up, as usual. Talk about a dishonest debater.

Did you read the article that I posted that said Canada's energy prices are about to go up 100% over the winter? You keep pushing Canada's liberal agenda on the USA and your country has gone to shit. What are you trying to do to my country?