Hello everyone. I can't seem to find info about copyright laws regarding toners. My question is : is it copywright infringement if you use original toner boxes or original toner recipients? Like buying original toners from 3'rd party and selling them as high quality compatibles. Or unboxing them and selling them in another packaging, which not belongs to OEM. In none of the cases above , the toners are sold as compatibles and not as originals. Is it legal? Or buying used original toners, refilling them and selling them. I read an article about lexmark vs some company regarding this issue and it was said that copyright does not extend beyond the buyer. So after you buy the oem cartridge you kinda can do anything with it. It is yours and only yours. Can someone provide insight about this? Thank you
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The whole thing just sounds like simple fraud to me.Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22. -
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In Europe it would not be allowed. This would be identified as a forgery. it's like selling a fake Louis Vuitton bag for $15
Yes, the quality of the materials may seem the same but in reality it is not.Comment
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Sorry for reviving this old thread, but is it legal to sell xerox metered toners on open market? I see a lot of companies here in Europe who sell metered toners or other supplies. I am just curious how things stand in this matter.Comment
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hey jesus savior........
dont you have all the answers?
remember in life one is judged by his actions and his words..
You made the post and your words are yours,so own them..........Comment
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If it deceives the buyer its fraud.
Buying toner from contract customers where the toner is included would be theft on the part of the seller that would extend to the buyer if you were not aware of it.WhateverComment
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Hey if you feel these guys here up the wrong way you will get these responses. Funny business here don't fly well. And this is funny business.
Law about this would be different from place to place.
If you come across abandoned toner its a shame to see them go to waste.
Here the law states if you have no running agreement like a service contract and the supplier leaves there goods on your site for longer that 3 months your are entitled to sell it.
So if a contract ends and it takes the supplier more than 3 months after fair warning, you can do with it as you please.WhateverComment
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Hey Allan. Thank you for the responses. Let me explain the whole deal to all of you : i live in romania. Here the minimum wage is 270 euros, something like that. ONE colour toner for a xerox workcentre 7120 costs 140 euros. I buy used xerox machines from various suppliers across Europe and among copiers , many sell metered toners, drums, fusers, etc. So i am not buying directly from companies wich have a contract with Xerox. I just want to save me some money and ALSO the customer by buying these metered toners and reselling them at a much lower cost than those on the market. This is all i want to do and i am asking if it is legal because i don't want to get in trouble. That's all there is to it. No cheating, no stealing, no lying, no nothing. I am just trying to save me and my clients money.Comment
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No that would be wrong to do for sure. They are supplying you with stolen goods and even if you knew that or not you will get into trouble.
Trouble by means if you were doing it knowingly and gets proven its theft. If they can't prove it, it will be confiscated with no compensation anyway.
Here we call it hot toners. I make sure they are ice cold before i touch them.
I know of companies that will microdot there parts and toners.WhateverComment
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Wht do you mean by "ice cold"? Is there a time limit or other factors that make these toners ok to buy or sell?Comment
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