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  • Rusty.Harris
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    #1

    The first copier you serviced

    These were the first two copiers i worked on in 1981.
    Some were liquid, most were dry toner. Hated that liquid & thermal paper!
    Sharp SF-740 & SF-810. In the past 40+ years, I've worked on:
    Sharp
    Panasonic
    Ricoh
    HP
    Brother
    Epson
    Xerox
    Toshiba
    Still working on Toshiba, HP, Epson, Xerox.


    What were some of the first copiers you worked on?

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  • slimslob
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    #2
    Originally posted by Rusty.Harris
    These were the first two copiers i worked on in 1981.
    Some were liquid, most were dry toner. Hated that liquid & thermal paper!
    Sharp SF-740 & SF-810. In the past 40+ years, I've worked on:
    Sharp
    Panasonic
    Ricoh
    HP
    Brother
    Epson
    Xerox
    Toshiba
    Still working on Toshiba, HP, Epson, Xerox.


    What were some of the first copiers you worked on?

    age1970_04_sf-740.png

    age1970_03_sf-810.png
    We sold Sharp about that same time. Do you remember which model used cold pressure fusing where the 2 steel rollers clicked together as the trail edge of the paper exited?

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    • slimslob
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      #3
      I started in 1972. I worked on both copiers and dictation equipment. We were a full line Olivetti dealer. We also sold SCM 33 and 44, Apeco, Saxon and Old Town. And yes I did occasional have to repair 3M thermal paper machines. Back then everything except Xerox was liquid. Dispersant and concentrate, some used premix for a starter. Some of the Olivetti models were also avail as coin operated machines which we had in all the county libraries. When the non-Xerox plain paper machine came out we sold the Royal RBC1 under the Apeco in addition to Sharp.

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      • Larhal
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        #4
        1974 Started as a Trained Tech with the Xerox 917, 660 plain paper copiers. Was a Xerox tech up to 1988.
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        • blackcat4866
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          #5
          I guess I'm the baby here. In 1989 I was first trained on the Mita DC1255, but the oldest machines I saw were the Mita 900D, 800D, ... zinc oxide paper that wrinkled and yellowed, and went blank after a few years. I had (6) of those 900D's at home that I swapped parts around, until I didn't have a usable registration roller any more. Then I scrapped the whole lot of them. There for a while customers would open up a closet to show me a 900D: "Hey do you want this thing? It weighs a ton!"
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • Calva70
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            • Apr 2021
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            #6
            I first worked on a Savin copier in 1993 while I was in the Navy, can't remember the model. Then in 1996 while still in the Navy I worked on a Xerox machine on the ship, also not sure of the model but I think it was a 1060 or something like that. If anyone knows anything about the SSRE (Shipboard Service Reprographic Equipment) program the Navy had the Savin was a Class II at the time and the Xerox was a Class III. Didn't touch copiers after 1997 till 2013 when I got a job working for Xerox, and mostly worked on WC 56XX 57XX 58XX, plus a little Altalink B80XX. Then shifted jobs and was more SFPs and MFPs. Now on to Canon, Sharp and HP copiers as well as HP SFP and MFPs.

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            • kingarthur
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              #7
              Mine was the Sharp SF-750. Was the SF-810 the one that used to "talk" . We had to turn it off on the only one we had - it annoyed the customer. One thing I remember about the SF-750, apart from the corona units being a PIA to restring, the corona units had a black coating inside, one of my colleagues was told to clean and rewire it - he was really pleased with himself - when he'd cleaned off the black coating....
              Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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              • Saturn
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                #8
                Canon NP 50 and NP 200 in 1979/80
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                • Rusty.Harris
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by slimslob

                  We sold Sharp about that same time. Do you remember which model used cold pressure fusing where the 2 steel rollers clicked together as the trail edge of the paper exited?
                  SF-301 had the "crush" rollers as I remember. Hated those things!

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                  • Rusty.Harris
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    I started in 1972. I worked on both copiers and dictation equipment. We were a full line Olivetti dealer. We also sold SCM 33 and 44, Apeco, Saxon and Old Town. And yes I did occasional have to repair 3M thermal paper machines. Back then everything except Xerox was liquid. Dispersant and concentrate, some used premix for a starter. Some of the Olivetti models were also avail as coin operated machines which we had in all the county libraries. When the non-Xerox plain paper machine came out we sold the Royal RBC1 under the Apeco in addition to Sharp.

                    LOL, I used a couple bottles of clear dispersant to get me down the road once because I thought I didn't have enough gas in my service van.

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                    • slimslob
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rusty.Harris


                      LOL, I used a couple bottles of clear dispersant to get me down the road once because I thought I didn't have enough gas in my service van.
                      Never tried that but did make a good weed killer.

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                      • Hansoon
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                        #12
                        1st machine I serviced doing a side job being a student, was a Renker Safir EP-404. Came on the market in 1970...... 😮 (YES! I'm THAT old!)

                        A ZnO coated roll paper machine using dispersant with added liquid toner concentrate. The machine was based on an American copier with the brand name VOSS.

                        Hans
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                        • Madnhain
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                          #13
                          I got a late start in the game. My first was a Sharp AR-150. Worked with Sharp all the way up through Polaris. Now I am almost exclusively KM and HP.

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                          • kingarthur
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Madnhain
                            I got a late start in the game. My first was a Sharp AR-150. Worked with Sharp all the way up through Polaris. Now I am almost exclusively KM and HP.
                            I remember the AR-150, had a customer who had a black line down the page, when scanning from the glass, found a massive dead fly against the lamp - no idea how it got in there
                            Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                            • blackcat4866
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                              #15
                              I continued to use Dispersant as a cleaning solvent for a decade afterwards. When I could not find it anymore, I switched to paraffin lamp oil. It's just as good and does not damage drum surfaces, just a little oily.
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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