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  • BillyCarpenter
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    #1

    How do you backup your data?

    There's a lot of different ways and options for backing up data. What's your process?


    You can backup files and folders to the cloud and that's very useful because they are offsite. But it doesn't back up programs and apps.

    You can create a system image and backup to a local hard drive that onsite. It backs up everything. How many system images to you keep? What is the backup schedule or do it manually?

    If you keep your backup local and something catastrophic happens? What then?

    Personally, I think the best way is to use the 3, 2, 1 method. Keep 3 duplicate system images at all times. I use 2 local external drives and 1 remote backup. I then leverage OneDrive to backup well known folders. At least this is what I'm gonna start doing.

    Thoughts, suggestions, criticism?

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  • copier tech
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    #2
    This reminds me of the guy who lost millions of Bitcoin, he had stored only on his HDD that accidently ended up in the refuse / garbage tip!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...d%20in%20court.



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    • Hart
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      #3
      I have two WireGuard VPN for my Home and my Work, I can access my two network from every devices.
      All my Work files are synced to my Work Synology NAS, then synced with all colleagues' laptops, then a backup every Monday to an HDD plugged in the NAS that my boss is supposed to bring home each time... and in the meantime a backup everyday to another 10y old Synology NAS a customer gave me.
      All my Home files are synced to my Home Synology NAS, then backup everyday to an HDD plugged in the NAS, and another backup everyday to Synology C2.

      Edit : I don't care about system image, I prefer to go new if something happens, but it would be a different story for an enterprise with 100+ PC to restore.
      I have Active Backup for my wife laptop in case she forgot to put the files in the right folder.

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      • rthonpm
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        #4
        For computers, I always follow the mantra of 'Cattle, not pets' meaning that a laptop or desktop system should be completely disposable. My data resides in OneDrive through known Folder Redirection for both Windows and Mac through my business M365 subscription. Even at scale for my clients, endpoints are considered disposable: part of our agreements with them are that for any data not stored on their servers or redirected folders there will be no heroic efforts to recover. With a decent imaging system, or scripted installers, rebuilding mchines shouldn't take more than one to two hours. I have scripts I've created for installing software silently odding settings for both Windows and Linux that speed up the process of configuration.

        Servers are different: I back up mine to a dedicated backup server with the highest priority ones having the backups duplicated to a NAS with a monthly tape copy taken. For clients, I've got a couple different methods depending on what they're trying to protect.

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          #5
          Originally posted by rthonpm
          For computers, I always follow the mantra of 'Cattle, not pets' meaning that a laptop or desktop system should be completely disposable. My data resides in OneDrive through known Folder Redirection for both Windows and Mac through my business M365 subscription. Even at scale for my clients, endpoints are considered disposable: part of our agreements with them are that for any data not stored on their servers or redirected folders there will be no heroic efforts to recover. With a decent imaging system, or scripted installers, rebuilding mchines shouldn't take more than one to two hours. I have scripts I've created for installing software silently odding settings for both Windows and Linux that speed up the process of configuration.

          Servers are different: I back up mine to a dedicated backup server with the highest priority ones having the backups duplicated to a NAS with a monthly tape copy taken. For clients, I've got a couple different methods depending on what they're trying to protect.
          Do you do any offsite backup for servers? And do you do bare metal backup for same?
          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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          • rthonpm
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            #6
            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

            Do you do any offsite backup for servers? And do you do bare metal backup for same?
            Servers are virtual for the most part so no need for a bare metal backup. I have a replica server in a different physical location, but of course that's not a true backup. All tapes are stored offsite as well.

            I may look at getting some blob storage some time in the future to store additional backups in the cloud.

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              #7
              Thus far I've been testing Tailscale on my home lab. That is until today. I installed Tailscale on a clients server and did a remote bare metal backup to my office. It was very simple.

              It's always best to install Tailscale on every device that you want to access but it's not always possible...for a copier for example. But by advertising a route on Tailscale, you can access the remote copier or anything else. I'm now able to access the command center on the Kyocera. All you do is type in the ip address of the copier because you're on the same network. Or you can advertise multiple routes if you have more than one network at said location.
              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #8
                The other day, I had a hard drive crash on PC is on a domain with shared folders. It was also set up on SharePoint for other shared folders. I also set up Well Known folders for anything that was on the actual PC.

                I set it up this way, because of advice given to me by rthonpm. Previously I had been using Folder Redirect. rthonpm told me to get far away from Redirect. I'm sure he remembers.

                Anyway, I have learned so much for this dude. Thank you.
                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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