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  • Ikoner
    Technician
    • Dec 2005
    • 42

    Glass Cleaner

    Is anyone using anything other then glass cleaner to clean glass and mirrors. I had someone tell me today that glass cleaner leaves a blue haze on mirrors and it causes problems so he uses alcohol. I think it is a bunch of BS, has anyone else heard about this blue haze thing?
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  • CMB
    KonicaMinolta Tech.

    250+ Posts
    • Mar 2005
    • 458

    #2
    go to home depot and buy you some "ZEP" brand vinal window cleaner. its a blue color liquid that has silicone in it. it cleans very well and leaves the glass slick so originals won't stick while being circulated by a doc. feeder. last 10 times longer than brillanize. and its cheap.
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    • knightfall
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Jul 2006
      • 633

      #3
      I have been using windex on all mirros and platen glass on all analog and digital copiers for 16 years and never experienced any CQ problems, what the blue haze maybe from oils gathered from the copier that eventually settles on the mirrors and if you dont clean them off but rather smear them you will see a blue haze. If you like you can mix 50-50 of windex and alcohol but be careful alcohol is a solvent and will eventually remove the mirror finish off the mirror.
      Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.

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      • 10871087
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2005
        • 1144

        #4
        Originally posted by knightfall
        the blue haze maybe from oils gathered from the copier that eventually settles on the mirrors and if you dont clean them off
        I agree the blue haaze on the mirror is oil, and if that is piled up on the mirrors to level that it starts causing CQ issues then I don't know what to tell you other then someone failed to clean the mirrors on the 15 or 20 previous calls. I have been using Zep glass cleaner forever and it works great.

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        • tonerdude

          #5
          Been using Windex for 20 years. Blue haze is from something else (oil, fumes)

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          • CMB
            KonicaMinolta Tech.

            250+ Posts
            • Mar 2005
            • 458

            #6
            that blue haze on the optics is comming from ozone.
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            • Ctl-Alt-Del
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • Jul 2006
              • 431

              #7
              Originally posted by CMB
              that blue haze on the optics is comming from ozone.
              Thast what I was tought back in the stone age. Seems like it was only yesterday.
              http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/me...09-Ctl-Alt-Del

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              • pspahr
                Toner Schlep

                100+ Posts
                • May 2008
                • 227

                #8
                nothing better than.......

                Denatured alcohol. By it at Lowes or Home Depot. Cleans any and all glass surfaces and leaves no streaks. Pretty much all I use anymore on mirrors anymore. If first pass doesn't clean, second one does. Don't know if I'd use ZEP on any of the optics, but on the exposure glass probably wouldn't be bad idea. I haven't used Brillianize or anything like it in the last 5 years except in maybe a couple cases. Really isn't needed if you have an almost non-existent base of analog machines.

                Then again, I'm considered strange in a lot of aspects.
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                • djbass
                  Trusted Tech

                  100+ Posts
                  • May 2008
                  • 132

                  #9
                  I have seen blue haze as a result from oil, ozone, mouse pee take your pick.

                  I prefer personally to always dry wipe the mirrors & optics with a lint-free cloth (chux work well).

                  Never heard of Zep but Mister Sheen also leaves a slippery coating that I use for the copyboard glass.
                  No, I will not send you Manuals, Software or your own little repair Genie to fix all your problems for you.

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                  • blackcat4866
                    Master Of The Obvious

                    Site Contributor
                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 22668

                    #10
                    For the last decade I've been mixing up my own recipe of glass cleaner. It's very cheap and very effective. Plus, I have an aversion to ammonia. I've had a bad experience with it (mixed with bleach). Here's the recipe:

                    (3) gallon container to mix and decant as needed
                    (2) gallons of windshield washer solvent (the blue stuff for the car, avoid the orange scented version)
                    (2) quarts vinegar scented Windex (no ammonia, please!)
                    (1) cup cleaning vinegar (optional)

                    It cleans glass with no streaks.
                    It never freezes.
                    It evaporates quickly.
                    It doesn't smell like ammonia.
                    You can make (3) gallons for ~$5.00

                    It won't do a thing for your blue haze though. Thats either fuser oil or ozone, and you've got to get serious to take that off. 99% pure alcohol will do it, then remove the streaks with glass cleaner.

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                    • prntrfxr
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 1637

                      #11
                      Glass Cleaner

                      I use alcohol, followed by Brillianize. Coats the glass, making it dust and fingerprint resistant. Documents slide on/off easier too (customers like it)
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                      • nmfaxman
                        Service Manager

                        Site Contributor
                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1705

                        #12
                        Windshield fluid.
                        Alcohol based with soap. No deposit. I even use it to wipe down the inside of the machine.
                        Cleans, cheap, no deposit and dryies fast.
                        If I don't have fluid I will use water.
                        Why do they call it common sense?

                        If it were common, wouldn't everyone have it?

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                        • WOMBAT

                          #13
                          GLASS CLEANER

                          I've been using Windex for 27 years without any issues with copy quality. For Mirrors I've always used Hot water and a Chux It has never failed It always removes Oil ,smears and whatever.

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                          • mrgoodcopy
                            TechMgr
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 49

                            #14
                            Advance Auto sells glass cleaner in a spray can made by Stoner it's called invisible glass works very well!!!

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                            • imaginGuru

                              #15
                              just order Brillianize from Katun, haven't had any problems with it since the analogs era.

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