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  • wwcci
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2020
    • 5

    Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

    Hi All,

    Let me first say I am a novice, so I appreciate your help and patience up front.

    I have a Canon Image Runner 2270 that my service company will no longer service. I paid for the maintenance package with them for many years and never had any issues with the machine. I routinely called them to have them come clean it, just so I was getting something for my subscription. Finally about 2 years ago they sent me a letter saying they would not service my machine any longer due to its age. The point is, I dont have another company locally that I can call for service now that I have an issue. Again, thanks in advance for the help!

    I have a paper jamming, but only on the first page so once I remove the jammed page I can print as many copies as I want without issue. Only very seldom does it jam twice in a row. However, if I wait 10 minutes, then try to print again, it jams again. I have been putting up with it for some time as I dont use it frequently. I am getting tired of the jam routine though and fear that I may damage other parts by continuing and also fear that opening the side door so many times to remove the paper may also cause damage.

    The jam is located in the right panel and I have to pull down the paper feeding mechanism to clear the paper and error. I dont ever run duplex so I am not sure if it does it with duplex or not.

    Can anyone help? I attached a photo to show where it gets jammed.

    Thanks again!!
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  • Brian8506
    Service Manager

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    • Feb 2009
    • 1623

    #2
    Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

    It could be as simple as worn down rollers and as complicated as a clutch. Is it only one tray? Try using the other tray and see if that jams


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    • wwcci
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2020
      • 5

      #3
      Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

      Thanks for the reply Brian8506!

      I hadnt tried that before, but I just did and the error came up but no physical paper jammed. Let me know what you think.
      Thanks again!

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      • Tricky
        Field Supervisor

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        2,500+ Posts
        • Apr 2009
        • 2621

        #4
        Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

        Have the updated parts to the lower door and paper guide been fitted ?
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        • Brian8506
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          #5

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          • wwcci
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2020
            • 5

            #6
            Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

            Originally posted by skynet
            Have the updated parts to the lower door and paper guide been fitted ?

            There have not been any parts updated to my knowledge.

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            • wwcci
              Junior Member
              • Sep 2020
              • 5

              #7
              Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming


              Can you explain how to access the jam code? I tried going through the settings in the log and wasnt able to identify anything that would resemble a jam code. Maybe #099.

              I wish I did have someone, but no one in my area that I could find. Only company I found wanted to charge $300 trip charge and Hourly on top of that. I would consider buying a newer or used one prior to that and I feel this is likely an easy fix.

              Thanks again for the replies!!

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              • copier tech
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                5,000+ Posts
                • Jan 2014
                • 7934

                #8
                Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

                Originally posted by wwcci
                Hi All,

                Let me first say I am a novice, so I appreciate your help and patience up front.

                I have a Canon Image Runner 2270 that my service company will no longer service. I paid for the maintenance package with them for many years and never had any issues with the machine. I routinely called them to have them come clean it, just so I was getting something for my subscription. Finally about 2 years ago they sent me a letter saying they would not service my machine any longer due to its age. The point is, I dont have another company locally that I can call for service now that I have an issue. Again, thanks in advance for the help!

                I have a paper jamming, but only on the first page so once I remove the jammed page I can print as many copies as I want without issue. Only very seldom does it jam twice in a row. However, if I wait 10 minutes, then try to print again, it jams again. I have been putting up with it for some time as I dont use it frequently. I am getting tired of the jam routine though and fear that I may damage other parts by continuing and also fear that opening the side door so many times to remove the paper may also cause damage.

                The jam is located in the right panel and I have to pull down the paper feeding mechanism to clear the paper and error. I dont ever run duplex so I am not sure if it does it with duplex or not.

                Can anyone help? I attached a photo to show where it gets jammed.

                Thanks again!!
                Looking at your picture of where the paper has jammed its not worn feed rollers. If the rollers were worn the paper wouldn't make it that far.

                Just above where the paper has stopped is a sensor arm (registration sensor) Canon used tiny little sound dampening pads, now at this old age the pads go sticky & this causes this sensor arm to not return 'home'

                Push this up firmly see if it immediately drops back down, any slight delay will cause a jam.

                This issue usually only happens first copy/print in the morning.

                There was also a modified lower right door on this model. Behind this door are two black or grey hard rubber rollers on a shaft, give them a good clean this may also help.
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                • Canuck
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                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1713

                  #9
                  Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

                  If it does it first copy, its probably because the rubber dampers on the right door for the diverters are sticking, same with damper for registration sensor flag. Also, the registration actuator wears down, and if paper curls, it jams. Probably sticky dampers, though. Jam code?

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                  • Brian8506
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                    • Feb 2009
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                    • sly
                      Technician
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 35

                      #11
                      Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

                      Has the lower door been modified as previously mentioned (door shown in your picture) if so it will have a leaf spring in the middle of the black paper guide the door shuts onto. the original un modified door will have black sticky foam strip across the top of the door and no leaf spring on the paper guide. jams due to uneven or not enough pressure on door assembly. used to be a common problem from memory worth checking out.

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                      • wwcci
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2020
                        • 5

                        #12
                        Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

                        Added some additional photos.

                        Thanks again Copytechnet community!
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                        • Tricky
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                          • Apr 2009
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                          #13
                          Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

                          Try to find something to exert pressure on the lower door, the one with the yellow label on it, a box pf paper maybe. If this fixes the jamming these new parts will do the job.
                          Your door is not the updated one, the door and improved paper guide looks like this, these parts are designed to be used together




                          FM3-1297-000 Right Lower Inner Door Assembly


                          FM3-1296-000 Lower Right Door Assembly

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                          • sly
                            Technician
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 35

                            #14
                            Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

                            Agree with the previous post . you have the old door and guide. almost certainly that is the issue. not getting enough pressure on the paper feed rollers.

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                            • Brian8506
                              Service Manager

                              Site Contributor
                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1623

                              #15
                              Re: Canon IR2270 - first copy jamming

                              Try applying some pressure by hand to that door. If that works, you will need the door updates. You should have it done anyway because it helps resolve some of the jamming problems. With a little luck, they're still available. I've driven a tapping screw into the hole in the middle of the black guide as a temporary measure. It applies pressure against the vertical rollers.

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