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  • SESHU
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
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    Ir4570 copies upside comes very lighly????

    Hi..
    One ir4570 recently i have to make copies it will comes upside very lightly..
    I have to change some parts for better results.
    That parts are..
    1.new drum and charging roller
    2.cd-rot unit toner fully cleaned with blower changed with new toner.
    3.new fuser film .
    4.laser dust glass clean with smooth cotton.

    But no result..???

    I can make prints and scan it will comes very clearly..
    But only copies are very lightly on upside only..

    How to make changes for beeter result for as it is copy...??

    I can upload images for checking variation difference.

    COPY.jpg PRINT.jpg SCAN.jpg

    IMAGES ARE ..
    1.copy
    2.computer to print
    3.scan to computer

    what to do for better result..
  • CanonSco
    Man About Town

    250+ Posts
    • Jul 2010
    • 368

    #2
    So , let me get this right.

    As far as I can see , its only "COPIES" that are effected. Not Prints?
    Is that correct?
    Yes, I am a nerd.
    Gaming PC - check. Raspberry Pi - Check. Custom ROM on phone - check. Thick glasses - check.

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    • costd
      Technician

      250+ Posts
      • Jan 2008
      • 409

      #3
      SWAG

      As I read your post it sounds to me like the "upside" you reference is the 2nd side of a 2-sided document you are trying to copy - yes??? If the unit prints 2-sided copies without an issue, and you can make good 2-sided copies from the glass, then it has to have something to do with the df/reader unit. My first guess would be to check and see if the df is laying flat - not because of light, but because it is possible (as an example only) the back (front, lead, trailing) side may be up enough that your document is not laying flat on the surface.

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      • teckat
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        • Jan 2010
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        #4
        test of the glass in the book mode / select two sided book mode / with df up/put the large test sheet on glass or a large book/ see results- report back

        or try a RCON CLR/ BEFORE U DO / make sure u print out P-Print settings to re input correct ones
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        • SESHU
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          100+ Posts
          • Feb 2009
          • 163

          #5
          Originally posted by CanonSco
          So , let me get this right.

          As far as I can see , its only "COPIES" that are effected. Not Prints?
          Is that correct?
          yes ..
          only effected copies.

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          • SESHU
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            • Feb 2009
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            #6
            Originally posted by costd
            SWAG

            As I read your post it sounds to me like the "upside" you reference is the 2nd side of a 2-sided document you are trying to copy - yes??? If the unit prints 2-sided copies without an issue, and you can make good 2-sided copies from the glass, then it has to have something to do with the df/reader unit. My first guess would be to check and see if the df is laying flat - not because of light, but because it is possible (as an example only) the back (front, lead, trailing) side may be up enough that your document is not laying flat on the surface.
            i can make 2 sided copies also..
            same image copies are coming.upside lightly??? on both sided.

            i can do copy one more way.what it is...
            copy paper placed on glass with fully covered that paper on place book for weight.
            now i can make copy comes out copy as it is upside light.???

            ican try to same thing bothsided (2-sided mode ) also..
            same image here comes out???

            what to do???

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            • SESHU
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              • Feb 2009
              • 163

              #7
              Originally posted by teckat
              test of the glass in the book mode / select two sided book mode / with df up/put the large test sheet on glass or a large book/ see results- report back

              or try a RCON CLR/ BEFORE U DO / make sure u print out P-Print settings to re input correct ones
              i can try to make copy large sheet also.
              upside full copy lightly comming???
              i try to book mode also same copy comes upside lightly...
              now what to do???

              now i do r-con clr all settings reseted???
              again i insert the values for better result???
              how can i change print value settings????

              can i post my p-print settings????

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              • blazebusiness
                SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

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                • Apr 2010
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                #8
                Not sure that I understand from your replies whether or not you have checked the document feeder height as per Costd's advice. I think he nailed it - and dealing with that issue will fix your problem.
                sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                • SESHU
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by blazebusiness
                  Not sure that I understand from your replies whether or not you have checked the document feeder height as per Costd's advice. I think he nailed it - and dealing with that issue will fix your problem.
                  then why it is comes scan to computer is clearly..

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                  • D_L_P
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1196

                    #10
                    Another possibility is humidity in the paper. I've seen that cause similar symptoms, the 1st pass through the fuser eliminates the humidity in the paper and then 2nd side looks fine/better.

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                    • SESHU
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                      • Feb 2009
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by D_L_P
                      Another possibility is humidity in the paper. I've seen that cause similar symptoms, the 1st pass through the fuser eliminates the humidity in the paper and then 2nd side looks fine/better.
                      i make 2500 above copies per day..
                      all copies like as it is upside lightly comes....
                      so humidity how far is there????

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                      • blazebusiness
                        SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

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                        • Apr 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SESHU
                        then why it is comes scan to computer is clearly..
                        Good point---my error-----sorry.
                        sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                        • Jedenco
                          Technician

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                          • Nov 2007
                          • 39

                          #13
                          Light Print on one side

                          I have had this happen and what took care of it for me was replacing the Magnetic Roller in developer unit.

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                          • teckat
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SESHU
                            i make 2500 above copies per day..
                            all copies like as it is upside lightly comes....
                            so humidity how far is there????
                            how are single sided copies and or prints/scans Look ???

                            when u scan just off the glass not using the DF to your printer all is OK ??

                            Upside ?? does that mean the side facing the front- back- right - or left side of the printer when it exits ??
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                            • badboys
                              Technician
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 69

                              #15
                              You said,"laser dust glass clean with smooth cotton"? Have you try replacing the whole Laser Assy? Not getting the original copy to lay down flat will give you dark/shadow edges due to being exposed. This is one weird problem you have I must say...
                              Have you done the laser test print???

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