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  • gensys
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    [Misc] Approximate cost price????

    What approximate cost price of one copy or print >>> ?????

    By mashin`s of a series iR5000/6000...
    By mashin`s of a series iR7000....



    Last edited by gensys; 08-02-2011, 06:00 AM.
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  • teckat
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    Re: Approximate cost price????

    there is no cost if u don't print or copy
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    • pjdbm
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      Re: Approximate cost price????

      I would not know how to answer that one?

      No paper and no service you got toner left

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      • gensys
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        Re: Approximate cost price????

        Originally posted by pjdbm
        I would not know how to answer that one?

        No paper and no service you got toner left
        I can be wrong have expressed
        Forgive me .......
        All right I will ask to another >how many there is 1 B/W copy in the USA in the copy center ????
        Last edited by gensys; 08-02-2011, 06:19 AM.
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        • JustManuals
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          Re: Approximate cost price????

          Originally posted by gensys
          I can be wrong have expressed
          Forgive me .......
          All right I will ask to another >how many there is 1 B/W copy in the USA in the copy center ????
          You should talk to zaza, I think you two speak the same language. (it certainly looks the same)

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          • gensys
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            Originally posted by manuals4you
            You should talk to zaza, I think you two speak the same language. (it certainly looks the same)
            Put near to the brains two windows that air of Las Vegasa would air them>>> is the idiot
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            • gensys
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              Originally posted by manuals4you
              You should talk to zaza, I think you two speak the same language. (it certainly looks the same)
              Yes>>>> I accept that perfectly it is not owned English
              It is not my native language
              But perfectly I know native plus four other languages, you that are ?????


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              • teckat
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                Re: Approximate cost price????

                8.5x11
                100,000+ 3.20 cents
                50,000+ 3.50 cents
                10,000+
                3.95 cents
                1000+
                4.95 cents

                Add paper option 8.5x11:
                20# bond - INCLUDED!
                24# offset add $.02
                28# laser add $.03
                32# laser add $.04
                80# glossy add $.05

                Double paper rates above for 11x17.

                B & W COPIES



                COLOR COPIES


                Color copies at great prices!*
                Quantity
                8.5x11
                11x17
                25,000+ $0.06 $0.12
                10,000+ $0.07 $0.14
                5,000+ $0.07 $0.14
                2500+ $0.08 $0.14
                1000+
                $0.10
                $0.20
                500 - 999
                $0.12
                $0.24
                1 - 499
                $0.15
                $0.30
                * Add paper option 8.5x11:
                20# bond - INCLUDED!
                24# offset add $.02
                28# laser add $.03
                32# laser add $.04
                80# glossy text add $.05

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                • gensys
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                  Re: Approximate cost price????

                  Originally posted by teckat
                  8.5x11
                  100,000+ 3.20 cents
                  50,000+ 3.50 cents
                  10,000+
                  3.95 cents
                  1000+
                  4.95 cents


                  Add paper option 8.5x11:
                  20# bond - INCLUDED!
                  24# offset add $.02
                  28# laser add $.03
                  32# laser add $.04
                  80# glossy add $.05

                  Double paper rates above for 11x17.

                  B & W COPIES



                  COLOR COPIES


                  Color copies at great prices!*
                  Quantity
                  8.5x11
                  11x17
                  25,000+ $0.06 $0.12
                  10,000+ $0.07 $0.14
                  5,000+ $0.07 $0.14
                  2500+ $0.08 $0.14
                  1000+
                  $0.10
                  $0.20
                  500 - 999
                  $0.12
                  $0.24
                  1 - 499
                  $0.15
                  $0.30

                  * Add paper option 8.5x11:
                  20# bond - INCLUDED!
                  24# offset add $.02
                  28# laser add $.03
                  32# laser add $.04
                  80# glossy text add $.05


                  Thanks Teckat
                  Last edited by gensys; 08-02-2011, 01:40 PM.
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                  • mjunkaged
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                    Re: Approximate cost price????

                    If you want to know TRUE COST (yours, not the customer's) then you need to do the following:
                    1.) Get docs from customers and gauge what kind of density (fill) they have on average. Most customers use upwards of 20% coverage, and some abusive A**hole customers can approach 80% + ! I'd call that 'abuse', or 'excessive', and I would write into my service contract (if that's what you're asking about) clauses that they'll be charged extra for that.

                    2.) You need to factor in the following: your cost for toner, drums, fusers, feed rollers, etc. per page. How?
                    Toner cost divided by yield at (x% average coverage) = toner cost per page
                    Fuser "
                    Drum "
                    (Color machines) all other colors, transfer belts, rollers, etc.

                    As the prev. poster illustrated, in order to make a profit in this business of service or cpc agreements, you must charge AT LEAST triple your true costs. As the customer's volume gets higher and higher, they get to demand a lower and lower cost per page. I've heard of agreements that state as low as 1.5c for B&W, however, there are always clauses (i.e. toner not included past x thousand pages per month, or certainn supplies excluded or service only, etc., etc.) to make up for the low cpc. I'd say you can't go wrong with 2c black and 10c color as long as you have language to protect yourself from 10,000 full color ass-shots per month.

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                    • teckat
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                      Re: Approximate cost price????

                      no one in their right mind charges .10 for color /
                      not even Large in-house facilities management companies
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                      • gensys
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                        Re: Approximate cost price????

                        Originally posted by teckat
                        no one in their right mind charges .10 for color /
                        not even Large in-house facilities management companies

                        At us 1 full color the page cost 0.8$, but 1000 pages 0.03$ > format A4 the mashine> color KM bizhub PRO


                        1 B/W copy page cost 0.025$

                        It is very difficult to do calculation of the cost value of one page
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                        • mjunkaged
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                          Re: Approximate cost price????

                          Did you miss the emphasis on 'clauses' and 'extra charges for excess toner usage/coverage' ? Sorry I didn't stress it enough.
                          Bottom line is, you can structure a service contract so many different ways, with so many 'fine print exceptions' that it's impossible to say 'charge x for your apples'.
                          Just gotta make sure you don't 'drop your trousers' so far own around your ankles that you LOSE MONEY.
                          There is a dealer here in my town that charges exactly that amount, and he does NOT INCLUDE PAPER, and has wording written into the contract to protect himself. Around here (WA) almost no one includes paper, exc. for a print shop, because they have to.

                          Apples and oranges, apples and oranges.
                          PS I'm still not sure if the original poster wants THEIR cost calculated or what to charge....so I kept it a bit general, or tried to.

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                          • mjunkaged
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                            Originally posted by teckat
                            no one in their right mind charges .10 for color /
                            not even Large in-house facilities management companies
                            You're right, my answers have nothing to do with a copy shop (except charge triple what it costs you).
                            My bad, next time I'll read all posts before spouting off!
                            Your answer is most up their alley. You've won the pissing match! Congrats.

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                            • gensys
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                              Originally posted by mjunkaged
                              Did you miss the emphasis on 'clauses' and 'extra charges for excess toner usage/coverage' ? Sorry I didn't stress it enough.
                              Bottom line is, you can structure a service contract so many different ways, with so many 'fine print exceptions' that it's impossible to say 'charge x for your apples'.
                              Just gotta make sure you don't 'drop your trousers' so far own around your ankles that you LOSE MONEY.
                              There is a dealer here in my town that charges exactly that amount, and he does NOT INCLUDE PAPER, and has wording written into the contract to protect himself. Around here (WA) almost no one includes paper, exc. for a print shop, because they have to.

                              Apples and oranges, apples and oranges.
                              PS I'm still not sure if the original poster wants THEIR cost calculated or what to charge....so I kept it a bit general, or tried to.
                              The greatest a share in the cost value occupy The first a tonerThe second a Drum (drums)By machines the Canon can be used only original what other manufacturer has no such durability
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