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  • ybnews
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Oct 2008
    • 94

    #1

    CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

    I can't get the top fuser unit to fully slide all the way out to get access to the cleaning web.
    The unit slides most of the way out but stops short by about 8 inches.
    I can't see anything in the way that might be hitting.
    I've removed the duplexing tray below and it still won't come out.
    It seems to be hanging up on or near the right side slide rail.
    Any suggestions on what else to try?
  • Gamut
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    • Jul 2008
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    #2
    Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

    Sounds like rails are Knackered, just try pushing then pulling out in short bursts, normally moves but you need to order rails if they are that bad!!

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    • jose antonio
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      • Dec 2012
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      #3
      Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

      Originally posted by ybnews
      I can't get the top fuser unit to fully slide all the way out to get access to the cleaning web.
      The unit slides most of the way out but stops short by about 8 inches.
      I can't see anything in the way that might be hitting.
      I've removed the duplexing tray below and it still won't come out.
      It seems to be hanging up on or near the right side slide rail.
      Any suggestions on what else to try?
      On The sides of the rails there is a spring loaded tab, press both sides in and pull out the unit further more.

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      • Gamut
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        #4
        Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

        Originally posted by jose antonio
        On The sides of the rails there is a spring loaded tab, press both sides in and pull out the unit further more.
        You should'nt have to touch these tabs to get access to web!! If you feel the need to do not pull to far or you will damage your TOES.

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        • jose antonio
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          #5
          Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

          Originally posted by Gamut
          You should'nt have to touch these tabs to get access to web!! If you feel the need to do not pull to far or you will damage your TOES.


          These units are screwed to the rails, and have limit stops on the rails.

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          • Gamut
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            #6
            Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

            Originally posted by jose antonio
            These units are screwed to the rails, and have limit stops on the rails.
            IF the rails are that far gone the little bent metal stops do not stop the whole bloody thing from falling on the floor, I talk from experience.
            The stops and screws get bent and worn through wear and tear.

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            • Canon.Tech
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              • Mar 2009
              • 335

              #7
              Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

              What rails are we talking about here!? To change the web on an ir6000 all you need to do is remove the top yellow cover, you will see the web, this simply pops out, easy!?

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              • canonbundy
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                • Jun 2012
                • 607

                #8
                Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

                Originally posted by Canon.Tech
                What rails are we talking about here!? To change the web on an ir6000 all you need to do is remove the top yellow cover, you will see the web, this simply pops out, easy!?
                I agree with Canon.Tech however if the Unit is still inside the machine by 8ins I would say one of the Rail Screws has already fallen out and preventing what should.

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                • Brian8506
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                  • Feb 2009
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                  #9
                  Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

                  Check the exhaust hood inside above fuser. I've had them melt and crack and block unit 1 from getting in or out.

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                  • ybnews
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 94

                    #10
                    Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

                    Originally posted by Canon.Tech
                    What rails are we talking about here!? To change the web on an ir6000 all you need to do is remove the top yellow cover, you will see the web, this simply pops out, easy!?
                    I'm talking about the left and right rails that the entire unit slides in and out of the machine on.
                    It "feels" like the right hand slide rail is hitting a stop preventing the unit from pulling out far enought to be able to open the yellow fuser cover.
                    I can't see a release tab on the rail. I do see a sort of rocker tab on the opposit rail but can't see it on the rail that I suspect is hanging up on. Can't get me head in that side of the machine to see.

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                    • jose antonio
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                      #11
                      Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

                      Originally posted by ybnews
                      I'm talking about the left and right rails that the entire unit slides in and out of the machine on.
                      It "feels" like the right hand slide rail is hitting a stop preventing the unit from pulling out far enought to be able to open the yellow fuser cover.
                      I can't see a release tab on the rail. I do see a sort of rocker tab on the opposit rail but can't see it on the rail that I suspect is hanging up on. Can't get me head in that side of the machine to see.
                      Those tabs are more for when you want to take out and remove the whole unit.

                      I use to do so for better access when servicing the fixing unit

                      If you don,t see the tab on the right rail than there must be something wrong with that rail.

                      If you see a screw on the right rail, i suggest try to remove that screw and the one on the left rail, and try to remove the whole unit for inspection to the right rail.
                      Be care full this is a two man operation, VERY HEAVY!

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                      • Canon.Tech
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                        • Mar 2009
                        • 335

                        #12
                        Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

                        I understand what you mean now!
                        Are you sure the handle is lowered OK, sometimes this can stick meaning that the transfer/sep unit is still engaged, can you reach round the back of tray one & push that release button, maybe with the dulex tray removed?

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                        • ybnews
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                          • Oct 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

                          Originally posted by Canon.Tech
                          I understand what you mean now!
                          Are you sure the handle is lowered OK, sometimes this can stick meaning that the transfer/sep unit is still engaged, can you reach round the back of tray one & push that release button, maybe with the dulex tray removed?
                          Copiers been down for days now.
                          I've got it torn apart to try and get access to whatevers hanging up.
                          Toner hopper removed
                          Lower duplex tray removed
                          Right side paper feed door open and upper feed unit removed
                          Metal paper guide behind feed unit removed.
                          I see nothing on the fuser unit hitting or hanging up on anything.
                          I still suspect the right hand slide rail that the unit slides out on. It's catching on a Stop of some kind.
                          Upon closer inspection I see the following,
                          The fuser unit slide rails roll in and out on a series of ballbearings.
                          I see that on the right hand rail the ballbearings are all the way toward the front of the machine.
                          But on the left hand rail they are about 7 inches further toward the back of the machine.
                          I'm pretty sure both slide rail bearings should line up.
                          I tried pushing the bearings on the right rail back with a small flat screwdriver and tapping with a hammer but they won't budge.
                          I'm getting frustrated and have been tempted to force and bend the rail stops but I know that's only make things worse.
                          HELP! Before I go Nuts!

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                          • Simons
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                            • Jun 2008
                            • 490

                            #14
                            Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

                            happened to be on a 7105 and in the end there was a small scratch on the drum. When this happens its going to be very hard to not scratch the drum. You will need to take off what ever you can to get in behind the frame unit and maybe make some progress that way. I removed the waste toner area and started removing some rail screws and FINALLY go it to budge loose. Rails were shot to hell.

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                            • vigour
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                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1038

                              #15
                              Re: CANON IR 6000 Fuser Unit:

                              If you have a problem with the right rail, you have to search for the screws holding the rail in and remove them.
                              Put the duplexer back in but slide it toward you, to prevent the fixing feeder assembly from dropping out on you.
                              You will have to replace the rail.

                              I have had a slightly bent metal plate on the left, below the outer delivery assembly, cause such a problem cause the fixing feeder assembly to get stuck.
                              In that case you have to remove the finisher and left plastic panels, and possibly a metal panel to get to the appropriate screws.

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