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  • Brian8506
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    • Feb 2009
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    IR5065

    I've got 2 problems. First, the message "Clean scanner glass" comes up whenever you use the adf. It's referring to the glass in the adf over the CIS. It's clean as clean can be. Wondering if there's an adjustment or if it can be turned off. Second, it gets an occasional E202 at initial feed thru adf. There's a slight grind of the CIS scanner glass when it codes. The belt and motor seem good and tight. Saw TP08 013.Any help would be great
  • vigour
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    Re: IR5065

    decreasing the value in level 1 Copier>Option>Body>DFDST-L1 and DFDST-L2
    will get rid of the message. try 200, 150, 90

    for e202
    lubricate the rail on which the glass moves.
    next step is .. replace the motor.

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    • Brian8506
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      #3
      Re: IR5065

      The DFDST settings are already at 0 and I believe they're not for the sensitivity for the CIS glass but for the scanner glass on the machine reader. I will try lubing rails. Thanks

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      • teckat
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        Re: IR5065

        Originally posted by Brian8506
        The DFDST settings are already at 0 and I believe they're not for the sensitivity for the CIS glass but for the scanner glass on the machine reader. I will try lubing rails. Thanks

        *******
        :'( _CIS unit in the feeder seems to be detecting dust.

        Beginning with System Software Version, 41.01, a Service Mode selection was added to help with the sensitivity for dust detection.
        TP07-328 describes the change and how it is used. The mode can be found on the sixth page of COPIER>OPTION>BODY.

        Opps._see u already tried that:-!

        Does this model have_SPECK-DP ?
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        • vigour
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          #5
          Re: IR5065

          Option.>DF-Bline should get rid of that message.

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          • MFPTech
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            #6
            Re: IR5065

            I think there is a spring added in the back but haven't seen the TB myself

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            • Brian8506
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              Re: IR5065

              Df bline didn't work. I haven't seen tp07-328 and there's only 5 pages under option body in level 1. Lubed rail so far so good. Time will tell since its infrequent. Maybe I need to upgrade software. Level 2 option body has 11 pages but not sure what I need to change

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              • teckat
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                Re: IR5065

                Originally posted by Brian8506
                Df bline didn't work. I haven't seen tp07-328 and there's only 5 pages under option body in level 1. Lubed rail so far so good. Time will tell since its infrequent. Maybe I need to upgrade software. Level 2 option body has 11 pages but not sure what I need to change


                If the machine does not have 6 pages in Option, then the machine needs to be flashed to the most current version of System Software to see the six pages OPTION in Service Mode
                Firmware ver. ??

                found it
                TP07-328========Year 2007



                A message of, "Originals may not be scanned clearly- Clean the feeder scanning area" appears on the display.
                The message only appears when scanning originals using the Document Feeder using scan once feature for duplex copies.
                The CIS unit in the feeder seems to be detecting dust. After cleaning the CIS unit, the message still appeared. CCD adjustments were then performed, but the message still appeared while running the documents in the feeder for that specific duplex feature.

                looks like below is for =imageDADF-S1 from v3.02 to v4.01
                When using the following mode adjust the stain detection level when scanning dual sides simultaneously can be performed. (If the setting value is increased, the stain recognition level can be improved.) * For details, please refer to Service Manual.
                [Service mode]
                - COPIER > OPTION > BODY > DF2DSTL1
                - (When scanning dual sides simultaneously, the stain detection level at the 2nd side paper interval can be adjusted.)
                <Details> Stain is detected, and the stain correction is conducted at the paper interval. By doing so, image error (lines) on the 2nd side due to the stain can be reduced.
                -COPIER > OPTION > BODY > DF2DSTL2
                (When scanning dual sides simultaneously, the stain detection level after the 2nd side job can be adjusted.)
                <Details> Stain is detected, and the stream reading position after the job is changed. By doing so, image error (lines) on the 2nd side due to the stain can be reduced.
                [Setting value]
                0 to 255 (Default: 200) * 0: Stain is not detected.
                The larger the value is, the higher the stain detection level becomes. (It would be easier to detect the stain which causes light lines.)
                This setting is enabled when combining with the following versions: RCON v3.01 (or later) + ADF v4.01 (or later).
                Attached Files
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                • Brian8506
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                  Re: IR5065

                  Today we upgraded the software and got the page 6 we were looking for with the DF2DSTL1 and DF2DSTL2 adjustments but A) they are at 0 and when we change the setting it goes back to 0 and B) we're still getting the message to clean the inner glass. It only seems to do it when the CIS needs to read both sides of the original such as 2-2 and 2-1. Any other thoughts?

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                  • teckat
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                    Re: IR5065

                    Originally posted by Brian8506
                    Today we upgraded the software and got the page 6 we were looking for with the DF2DSTL1 and DF2DSTL2 adjustments but A) they are at 0 and when we change the setting it goes back to 0 and B) we're still getting the message to clean the inner glass. It only seems to do it when the CIS needs to read both sides of the original such as 2-2 and 2-1. Any other thoughts?


                    ???
                    setting is enabled when combining with the following versions: RCON v3.01 (or later) + ADF v4.01 (or later).
                    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                    • Brian8506
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                      Re: IR5065

                      I updated to the latest version but I don't remember if there was an ADF upgrade in there. I know there was rcon. I'll stop by and check. I can change the setting but when I exit that page and go back it's at 0 again. I would think that 0 would disable it but it doesn't seem to. I probably have another issue with whatever detects the dust or dirt but I would think I could disable the feature.

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                      • MFPTech
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                        #12
                        Re: IR5065

                        Originally posted by Brian8506
                        Today we upgraded the software and got the page 6 we were looking for with the DF2DSTL1 and DF2DSTL2 adjustments but A) they are at 0 and when we change the setting it goes back to 0 and B) we're still getting the message to clean the inner glass. It only seems to do it when the CIS needs to read both sides of the original such as 2-2 and 2-1. Any other thoughts?
                        Did you add a spring in the back, as I mentioned before ...

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                        • Brian8506
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                          Re: IR5065

                          I don't have an E202 problem anymore. It's now just sensing a dirty scanner glass inside DF. Glass is now moving fine.
                          Originally posted by MFPTech
                          Did you add a spring in the back, as I mentioned before ...

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                          • MFPTech
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                            Re: IR5065

                            Originally posted by Brian8506
                            I don't have an E202 problem anymore. It's now just sensing a dirty scanner glass inside DF. Glass is now moving fine.
                            Sorry, have to ask, have disabled the message from the Setting/Registration?

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                            • Brian8506
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                              Re: IR5065

                              This is an IR5065. It has additional functions mode. Settings/Registration is on Advance series. Nothing under additional functions that will disable this
                              Originally posted by MFPTech
                              Sorry, have to ask, have disabled the message from the Setting/Registration?

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