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  • Berean
    Technician
    • Aug 2014
    • 44

    #1

    Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

    Hello Everyone, I have been using a Canon 6570 to print our ministry booklets for several years www.presenttruth.info. I am looking to upgrade and have been considering the 7095 with a V2 saddle finisher and a Cover inserter attached to the top. I have done all of my own service for the 6570. I have a service manual and parts catalog that have been very helpful. I have read about problems with the V2 finisher, and I am wondering if it is a good idea to upgrade to a 7095. The only thing I do with this machine is make booklets printed from a computer, so the finisher is a very important feature. We do not print for profit, and we cannot afford a new machine or a service contract. I have had no success finding a service manual and parts catalog for both the 7095 and the V2 finisher. If you have any input it would be greatly appreciated.
  • V-P
    Senior Tech

    Site Contributor
    500+ Posts
    • Apr 2011
    • 679

    #2
    Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

    I would jump for it...

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    • 20 year tech
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • May 2014
      • 577

      #3
      Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

      The 7095 is more robust machine, as such they tended to be sold to print shops and copy centers, so if you purchase one be weary of machines with extremely high page counts as it may have had a hard life before it gets to you. Another thing to consider is that the 7095 uses a 208V outlet not the standard 120v 20 amp that your 6570 uses so you will need to hire an electrician to come out and install a proper outlet.

      Not trying to talk you out of it that series was very reliable. just pointing out some things to consider.

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      • Canuck
        Tech Specialist

        1,000+ Posts
        • Nov 2007
        • 1713

        #4
        Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

        This machine is a work horse...I have a few that run over 350k a month each ... Personally I love the finisher. Yes its more complex than the printer(lol). But when you understand them they can run nice. This is a production machine. It likes to be run hard, non-stop. 6570 is a departmental office machine. Two different animals.

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        • Berean
          Technician
          • Aug 2014
          • 44

          #5
          Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

          Originally posted by 20 year tech
          The 7095 is more robust machine, as such they tended to be sold to print shops and copy centers, so if you purchase one be weary of machines with extremely high page counts as it may have had a hard life before it gets to you. Another thing to consider is that the 7095 uses a 208V outlet not the standard 120v 20 amp that your 6570 uses so you will need to hire an electrician to come out and install a proper outlet.

          Not trying to talk you out of it that series was very reliable. just pointing out some things to consider.
          Thank you so much for your help with this. The machine I am looking at is a low meter at near 800,000. My 6570 has 1.4 million at the moment. I will have to get another power outlet. I have read about the fact that it requires "208V, 60Hz, 12A." Would a 220V outlet work for that? I live in the United States. I appreciate your input.

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          • Berean
            Technician
            • Aug 2014
            • 44

            #6
            Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

            Originally posted by Canuck
            This machine is a work horse...I have a few that run over 350k a month each ... Personally I love the finisher. Yes its more complex than the printer(lol). But when you understand them they can run nice. This is a production machine. It likes to be run hard, non-stop. 6570 is a departmental office machine. Two different animals.
            Excellent, thank you for your help. I run about 30-50k per month, and will probably never get much more than that. However, most of that amount is done in 1 or 2 days. Thank you for the input on the finisher. It looks more robust than my finisher on the 6570. That is the main reason I am wanting to switch, because my finisher has been giving me trouble, and now it won't fold or staple at all. I have also been having a lot of trouble with the fuser, developer, and some other troubles. It has been nickle and diming me, so I would like to get a more reliable machine. Does anyone have any ideas about the service manual. The dealer I am getting the machine from says that Canon stopped offering that service manual for download for technicians, so he cannot get one for me. That is a very important help in doing my own service on the 6570, so I really need to be able to get service manuals for the 7095. I really need a service manual for the machine and a separate manual for the finisher, one for the cover inserter, and another for the W1. When I got my 6570, the salesman gave me a CD with all the service manuals for the machine and one each for every possible accessory. Also I need to have the parts catalog for the main machine. I have searched online for these manuals for my other machines that did not come with them, and they were very difficult to find. I even paid money for them, but got the wrong ones or not enough of them. Since I do all my own service, it is very important for me have these manuals. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.

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            • Berean
              Technician
              • Aug 2014
              • 44

              #7
              Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

              Originally posted by Canuck
              This machine is a work horse...I have a few that run over 350k a month each ... Personally I love the finisher. Yes its more complex than the printer(lol). But when you understand them they can run nice. This is a production machine. It likes to be run hard, non-stop. 6570 is a departmental office machine. Two different animals.
              Excellent, thank you for your help. I run about 30-50k per month, and will probably never get much more than that. However, most of that amount is done in 1 or 2 days. Thank you for the input on the finisher. It looks more robust than my finisher on the 6570. That is the main reason I am wanting to switch, because my finisher has been giving me trouble, and now it won't fold or staple at all. I have also been having a lot of trouble with the fuser, developer, and some other troubles. It has been nickle and diming me, so I would like to get a more reliable machine.

              Does anyone have any ideas about the service manual. The dealer I am getting the machine from says that Canon stopped offering it for technicians, so he cannot get one for me. That is a very important help in doing my own service on the 6570, so I really need to be able to get it for the 7095. I really need one for the machine and a separate one for the finisher, one for the cover inserter, and another for the W1. PDF are great so I can search them. When I got my 6570, the salesman gave me a CD with all the pdfs for the machine and one each for every possible accessory. Also I need to have the parts catalog for the main machine. I have searched online for these manuals for my other machines that did not come with them, and they were very difficult to find. I even paid for them, but got the wrong ones or not enough of them. Since I do all my own service, it is very important for me have these manuals. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.

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              • 20 year tech
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • May 2014
                • 577

                #8
                Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

                Originally posted by Berean
                Thank you so much for your help with this. The machine I am looking at is a low meter at near 800,000. My 6570 has 1.4 million at the moment. I will have to get another power outlet. I have read about the fact that it requires "208V, 60Hz, 12A." Would a 220V outlet work for that? I live in the United States. I appreciate your input.
                the 7095 needs 208V 15Amp have your electrician install a NEMA 6-15r receptacle

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                • Canon345

                  #9
                  Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

                  Just find a reliable machine with no issues. You will want to make sure the laser unit got updated to the new version. Or you can buy a refurb fixed laser from NRWS. Just make sure you get one with a good working finisher. Finishers can be repaired. Consult your local Canon shop and insist to talk to a tech. Find someone that is for sure trained and skilled enough to help with the machine when you need it. Repairing these machines is not a side job.

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                  • Berean
                    Technician
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 44

                    #10
                    Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

                    Originally posted by 20 year tech
                    the 7095 needs 208V 15Amp have your electrician install a NEMA 6-15r receptacle
                    Thank you so much for all your help on this. My local Canon Technician who encouraged me to go with this particular machine told me that the 7095 will run just fine on a 220V system, and that I would just need to get the NEMA 6-15r receptacle. I am at a location where 3-phase power is not available. I have single phase two pole power. Will that work okay for this machine? The "208v" part of the power requirement has me concerned because it usually is three phase, and I do not have that available. Any input from personal experience on this would be very helpful.

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                    • Berean
                      Technician
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 44

                      #11
                      Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

                      Originally posted by Canon345
                      Just find a reliable machine with no issues. You will want to make sure the laser unit got updated to the new version. Or you can buy a refurb fixed laser from NRWS. Just make sure you get one with a good working finisher. Finishers can be repaired. Consult your local Canon shop and insist to talk to a tech. Find someone that is for sure trained and skilled enough to help with the machine when you need it. Repairing these machines is not a side job.
                      Thank you so much for all your help Canon345. I did not know about the laser unit needing to be updated to the new version. I will make sure to check that. Thank you for the tip on the finisher. I am planning to get one with a booklet finisher and the cover inserter on top so I can print books with color covers that do not have to go through the main unit. I really like the idea of this feature. Do you know anything about the B1 booklet trimmer or the D1 z-fold options? Thank you for your input.

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                      • celliers
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 5

                        #12
                        Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

                        Sorry to jump on the bandwagon so late. The 7095 is a monster. I just deleted the post I was going to post with all blah blah in.
                        Send me a PM with mail address etc, for the manuals etc.

                        Long story short is this is a monster. Treat it right and it wouldn't let you down. I rebuilt one that co workers said wouldn't work... We (sales rep jackass) sold it to a school in my area 1 month later, with V2 finisher...

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                        • tinnyjay
                          Senior Tech

                          500+ Posts
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 663

                          #13
                          Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

                          Originally posted by Berean
                          Hello Everyone, I have been using a Canon 6570 to print our ministry booklets for several years www.presenttruth.info. I am looking to upgrade and have been considering the 7095 with a V2 saddle finisher and a Cover inserter attached to the top. I have done all of my own service for the 6570. I have a service manual and parts catalog that have been very helpful. I have read about problems with the V2 finisher, and I am wondering if it is a good idea to upgrade to a 7095. The only thing I do with this machine is make booklets printed from a computer, so the finisher is a very important feature. We do not print for profit, and we cannot afford a new machine or a service contract. I have had no success finding a service manual and parts catalog for both the 7095 and the V2 finisher. If you have any input it would be greatly appreciated.
                          Just take the beast!
                          "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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                          • sham.panhale
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 54

                            #14
                            Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

                            Did you got the service manual ??
                            I have service manual , part manual, SST with firmware . If you need send me a mail sham.panhale@Gmail.com. Of course for free.

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                            • Berean
                              Technician
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 44

                              #15
                              Re: Canon 7095 Durability and Dependability

                              Originally posted by sham.panhale
                              Did you got the service manual ??
                              I have service manual , part manual, SST with firmware . If you need send me a mail sham.panhale@Gmail.com. Of course for free.
                              Thank you so much for your help. I did get the 7095, and I also got the service manual from the dealer, so I am setup for that right now. I really appreciate your help.

                              Blessings to you and your family.

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