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  • kingarthur
    Service Manager

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    • Feb 2008
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    #1

    DR512 Drums

    Has anyone had the latest batch of drums for the C224(e) range , where the chip is riveted to it, instead of the little black screw...going to make life a little difficult, used to be handy for swapping K & Y DRs for diagnosis purposes....
    Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...
  • uzicomp
    Technician
    • Feb 2015
    • 35

    #2
    Re: DR512 Drums

    what do you need?

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    • habik
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      • Apr 2010
      • 2013

      #3
      Re: DR512 Drums

      Ah crap. Thanks for the update. time to keep some old screws from old drum units.


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      • D Colour
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        • Oct 2008
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        #4
        Re: DR512 Drums

        We have just received our first lot of these. What a con! Trying to force you into purchasing the colour drum units (which are more than twice the price!)

        Did you come up with a solution to get round this - I've had a look at it and cant see a way of changing the chip without butchering it!

        Thanks
        J
        Everything that has a beginning, has an end.....

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        • habik
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          • Apr 2010
          • 2013

          #5
          Re: DR512 Drums

          Originally posted by D Colour
          We have just received our first lot of these. What a con! Trying to force you into purchasing the colour drum units (which are more than twice the price!)

          Did you come up with a solution to get round this - I've had a look at it and cant see a way of changing the chip without butchering it!

          Thanks
          J
          Since it is a rivet, drilling it out wil be the most precise and efficient to remove without damaging the chip. You may have to use vaccume to suck all the debree out. OR just snap it off and cut the rivet with snippers. Put bit of a glue from glue gun in? There is so many options. Or some decent industrial 2-sided tape perhaps to hold the chip in place.
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          • Gift
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            • Mar 2011
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            #6
            Re: DR512 Drums

            Totally easy:

            rip out the old chip with force / remove pcb residues.

            You'll either have to have new modified chips or modify old-style chips with a little multi drilling tool so you can slide the chip below the pin and lift it gently over the other fixing pin. No glue or fancy stuff needed and done within no time (if you have your chips prepped).

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            • Copier Addict
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              • Jul 2013
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              #7
              Re: DR512 Drums

              Originally posted by Gift
              Totally easy:

              rip out the old chip with force / remove pcb residues.

              You'll either have to have new modified chips or modify old-style chips with a little multi drilling tool so you can slide the chip below the pin and lift it gently over the other fixing pin. No glue or fancy stuff needed and done within no time (if you have your chips prepped).
              Are you saying to leave the rivet intact and remove the corner of the chip so it can slip under the rivet?

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              • allan
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                • Apr 2010
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                #8
                Re: DR512 Drums

                The first one i encountered i broke the chip off and used a cutter to get rid of the rivet.
                The screws that holds the plastic strip to cover the charge unit works fine and seems OK without it.
                Losing the K-chip is ok otherwise they collect in my tool-bag anyway.
                Whatever

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                • splblazer91
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                  • Jul 2014
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                  #9
                  Re: DR512 Drums

                  Heres what I do. Hold a soldering iron on the rivet for about 1 minute. It melts the plastic the rivet goes into. Then pull the board and rivet out together. Replace with a color drum chip by using a plastic screw.

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                  • Boltaction
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                    • Jul 2016
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                    #10
                    Re: DR512 Drums

                    We have gotten into the habit of ripping out the K chip, cutting the pin and applying a dab of super glue to the back of the color chip.
                    The first time we encountered it we had got a call back for a drum unit setting error, turned out there was a bit to much super glue and the contact became clouded so it had to get cleaned off. But otherwise has worked well for us.
                    I'll have to try using the plastic screw from an old drum unit to secure the new chip.

                    I guess KM looks at it as we are stealing money from them.

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                    • Tech Helpdesk
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                      • Jul 2015
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                      #11
                      Re: DR512 Drums

                      Hi all,

                      Yes they have kindly riveted the chips in place and it does not look good when you are breaking off the black chips and then having to glue color ones on !!

                      We are currently using the drum adapter tool that allows the fitment of black drums to the colors without having to change any chips, we even post the drums out to the customers now to fit themselves.

                      Drum Adapter.jpg

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                      • delboy10
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                        • Jun 2010
                        • 43

                        #12
                        Re: DR512 Drums

                        Originally posted by splblazer91
                        Heres what I do. Hold a soldering iron on the rivet for about 1 minute. It melts the plastic the rivet goes into. Then pull the board and rivet out together. Replace with a color drum chip by using a plastic screw.
                        Nice! Thanks for the tips.

                        delboy

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                        • kingarthur
                          Service Manager

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                          • Feb 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: DR512 Drums

                          Originally posted by Boltaction
                          We have gotten into the habit of ripping out the K chip, cutting the pin and applying a dab of super glue to the back of the color chip.
                          The first time we encountered it we had got a call back for a drum unit setting error, turned out there was a bit to much super glue and the contact became clouded so it had to get cleaned off. But otherwise has worked well for us.
                          I'll have to try using the plastic screw from an old drum unit to secure the new chip.

                          I guess KM looks at it as we are stealing money from them.
                          Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                          • Boltaction
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                            #14
                            Re: DR512 Drums

                            Well that's the kicker isn't it lol at least you are still able to swap color drums around. Like I said we will have to try the method of using a plastic screw to hold the new chip in place.

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                            • Boltaction
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                              • Jul 2016
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                              #15
                              Re: DR512 Drums

                              Originally posted by Tech Helpdesk
                              Hi all,

                              Yes they have kindly riveted the chips in place and it does not look good when you are breaking off the black chips and then having to glue color ones on !!

                              We are currently using the drum adapter tool that allows the fitment of black drums to the colors without having to change any chips, we even post the drums out to the customers now to fit themselves.

                              [ATTACH=CONFIG]35148[/ATTACH]
                              Where can you find this adapter tool?

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