Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

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  • sadanand
    Technician

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    • Jul 2016
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    Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

    Hi there, I am having Konica c 6000 with me not under copy contract, can someone pl furnish me with toner yield per bottle or what toner average you are getting per bottle
  • Synthohol
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    • Mar 2016
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    #2
    Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

    spec is like 30k for colors and 40k for black.
    but the higher the coverage the lower the yield.
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • sadanand
      Technician

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      • Jul 2016
      • 62

      #3
      Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

      Originally posted by Synthohol
      spec is like 30k for colors and 40k for black.
      but the higher the coverage the lower the yield.
      yes I agree but at 16% coverage I am getting only 5 K
      Is it ok or is there any problem with machine ,I am really confused

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      • Synthohol
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        • Mar 2016
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        Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

        if all the consumables are good and the proper image adjustments are made you can get more clicks from the bottles.
        you may just need good engine and controller calibrations.
        if the drums/DV are past life then there's your answer.
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • jpablo_mza
          Technician
          • Jun 2018
          • 28

          #5
          Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

          From experience, the team yields 10,000 long copies per bottle

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          • blackcat4866
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            • Jul 2007
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            Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

            Are you sure only 16% fill? Most of the color presses I see are doing 200% fill or more on every page. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • Phil B.
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              • Jul 2016
              • 22808

              #7
              Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

              Originally posted by sadanand
              yes I agree but at 16% coverage I am getting only 5 K
              Is it ok or is there any problem with machine ,I am really confused
              industry specs call for ONLY 5% coverage when they calculate the % given in their specs... you have 3 TIMES that coverage on the page .. so to me it sounds like you are right in line with what they project.

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              • srvctec
                Former KM Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Oct 2009
                • 827

                #8
                Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                Are you sure only 16% fill? Most of the color presses I see are doing 200% fill or more on every page. =^..^=
                Wait, what?! 200% or more?? How can you even have more than 100% coverage?



                Here is a really old bulletin I've saved because it has perfect examples of coverage as well as how to calculate what you might expect to get out of a toner bottle. This is bulletin #4983 from Konica Minolta dated 12/23/04.

                Toner Density 4983.pdf
                Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

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                  • Jul 2007
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                  #9
                  Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

                  Originally posted by srvctec
                  Wait, what?! 200% or more?? How can you even have more than 100% coverage?



                  Here is a really old bulletin I've saved because it has perfect examples of coverage as well as how to calculate what you might expect to get out of a toner bottle. This is bulletin #4983 from Konica Minolta dated 12/23/04.

                  [ATTACH]40063[/ATTACH]
                  So what would you call it if you had a page that was covered 60% yellow, 60% cyan, 60% magenta, 60% black? 4 x 60% = 240% fill.

                  Toner is layered each color over the next, so a composite black with 100%Y 100%C 100%M 40%K=340% fill. Take a look at this Pantone Color Chart. If you do some simple math many of these patches exceed 100% fill.



                  =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • srvctec
                    Former KM Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 827

                    #10
                    Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

                    Originally posted by blackcat4866
                    So what would you call it if you had a page that was covered 60% yellow, 60% cyan, 60% magenta, 60% black? 4 x 60% = 240% fill.

                    Toner is layered each color over the next, so a composite black with 100%Y 100%C 100%M 40%K=340% fill. Take a look at this Pantone Color Chart. If you do some simple math many of these patches exceed 100% fill.



                    =^..^=
                    Ah, OK. I was thinking in terms of one color only, like an idiot, while we're discussing a color machine.

                    Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
                    Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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                    • ysshin79
                      Technician
                      • May 2017
                      • 37

                      #11
                      Re: Toner Yield or average In Konica c6000

                      The Japanese,USA produced color toner is 630 grams, Germany France etc. Europe product color toner is 850 grams. I have used Japanese toners and have a short life span, so I am importing and using European toners.

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