C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

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  • denvertan
    Technician
    • May 2019
    • 82

    C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

    I have few of this copier having "Bizzzzz...." sound at specific internal at the right of machine.
    The "Bizzz..." sound is clearly audible in some of the copier.

    Any idea how can I fix it ?
  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22808

    #2
    Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

    Originally posted by denvertan
    I have few of this copier having "Bizzzzz...." sound at specific internal at the right of machine.
    The "Bizzz..." sound is clearly audible in some of the copier.

    Any idea how can I fix it ?
    sure it wasn't a BUZZZ or Zizzzzzt?

    you really expect us to help with that GRAND accounting of your problem?

    have you compared the sound to the timing chart in the SM?
    did you pull covers in that area to better define the issue?

    post a video of sound
    what are page counts on the supplies/parts?
    what have you done to try and isolate the problem?

    as much as you post here, you should be well aware of the prerequisites to requiring help.

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    • mo0651
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2009
      • 1054

      #3
      Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

      They are BIZZZhubs. LOL sounds like a power supply cooling fan may have popped loose.

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      • Bix
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Apr 2018
        • 1421

        #4
        Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

        Hi, it depends on what kind of noise you hear. A video could help


        I have had several C364e with a hum coming from the power supply. If instead it comes from the fuser, you could try to adjust the Warp Up in the Service Mode (from Mode 1 to Mode 2, from mode 2 to mode 3 etc.)

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        • DigiMan
          Trusted Tech

          Site Contributor
          250+ Posts
          • Jan 2013
          • 262

          #5
          Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

          Originally posted by mo0651
          They are BIZZZhubs. LOL sounds like a power supply cooling fan may have popped loose.
          Damn you beat me to it!
          I don't like the new copier I just bought. It says "put face down" but every time I do it, it blinds my eyes.

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          • tsbservice
            Field tech

            Site Contributor
            5,000+ Posts
            • May 2007
            • 7635

            #6
            Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

            Originally posted by mo0651
            They are BIZZZhubs. LOL sounds like a power supply cooling fan may have popped loose.
            Originally posted by DigiMan
            Damn you beat me to it!
            Me too!
            A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
            Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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            • JR2ALTA
              Service Manager

              Site Contributor
              1,000+ Posts
              • Feb 2010
              • 2017

              #7
              Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

              Known issue on many bizhubs. I'm not a current KM tech but it was a capacitor on the power supply I think. It would buzz every 30 seconds or so. Sounded like a bug zapper. I think there was a update or bulletin in sure someone here can help.

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              • copyman
                Owner / Technician

                Site Contributor
                2,500+ Posts
                • Sep 2005
                • 4213

                #8
                Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

                Normal noise from power supply. Well not really normal but for Kon/Min it is.

                Wanted to add that I believe the noise happens when the fuser lamps / inductherm sys turns on and off. When sitting idle it happens periodically turning fuser on / off.

                If on the 554 and higher the squealing noise from fuser drive drowns it out so don't hear the customer complain as much. I had an electrical contracter almost sue me over a C220 buzzing to a point it was also buzzing at the circuit breaker. Once I saw that I had no choice but to take back machine and refund money. That wasn't normal. Would of sucked if a Biz C220 burned down a brand new building!
                Last edited by copyman; 12-03-2019, 02:24 AM.

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                • allan
                  RTFM!!

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 5445

                  #9
                  Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

                  Its the TRIAC controlling the lamp current.
                  The white silicone blobs on the power supply capacitors and coils help to keep them from vibrating to much.
                  Really eerie noise, customers complain about it.
                  Whatever

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                  • denvertan
                    Technician
                    • May 2019
                    • 82

                    #10
                    Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

                    Current meter is @
                    552,251 for total black
                    382,843 for total colour

                    The sound happen in 5 second internal.


                    The sound is clearer when am nearer to this area of this board.
                    20191203_090817.jpg

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                    • Copier Addict
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                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 13039

                      #11
                      Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

                      There is a bulletin concerning this issue.

                      Problem
                      Abnormal faint buzzing/crackling noise.

                      Solution
                      CAUSE: Transformer on the DCPS.

                      SOLUTION: Perform the following setting in Service Mode.
                      1. Enter Service Mode.
                      2. Select Machine.
                      3. Select Heater Control Level.
                      4. Set from Level 1 to Level 4.
                      5. Power machine OFF/ON.




                      I have tried this "fix" on several machines. It has actually solved the problem a couple times.

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                      • denvertan
                        Technician
                        • May 2019
                        • 82

                        #12
                        Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

                        Originally posted by copier addict
                        There is a bulletin concerning this issue.

                        Problem
                        Abnormal faint buzzing/crackling noise.

                        Solution
                        CAUSE: Transformer on the DCPS.

                        SOLUTION: Perform the following setting in Service Mode.
                        1. Enter Service Mode.
                        2. Select Machine.
                        3. Select Heater Control Level.
                        4. Set from Level 1 to Level 4.
                        5. Power machine OFF/ON.




                        I have tried this "fix" on several machines. It has actually solved the problem a couple times.
                        Do you have the bulletin to shaee wirh me ?

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                        • copiertec
                          Service Manager

                          Site Contributor
                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 2172

                          #13
                          Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

                          Originally posted by denvertan
                          Do you have the bulletin to shaee wirh me ?
                          Copier Addict just offered you a solution to your problem! Now you ask him for the TSB? How about thanking him and trying what he has suggested! ... After all it was just Thanksgiving here in the USA.

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                          • Copier Addict
                            Aging Tech

                            Site Contributor
                            10,000+ Posts
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 13039

                            #14
                            Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

                            Originally posted by denvertan
                            Do you have the bulletin to shaee wirh me ?
                            That is the bulletin, I just copied and pasted it here.

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                            • Copier repairman
                              Technician
                              • Aug 2019
                              • 85

                              #15
                              Re: C364e & C224e Electric Shock Sound at left hand side

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              There is a bulletin concerning this issue.

                              Problem
                              Abnormal faint buzzing/crackling noise.

                              Solution
                              CAUSE: Transformer on the DCPS.

                              SOLUTION: Perform the following setting in Service Mode.
                              1. Enter Service Mode.
                              2. Select Machine.
                              3. Select Heater Control Level.
                              4. Set from Level 1 to Level 4.
                              5. Power machine OFF/ON.


                              I have tried this "fix" on several machines. It has actually solved the problem a couple times.
                              If you switch to Level 4, you will hear less or no sound.

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