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  • schmeckles22
    Technician
    • Jun 2020
    • 34

    [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    Total Prints - 136,454
    Dev Units all on 86%




    Last edited by schmeckles22; 07-13-2020, 09:18 PM.
  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22808

    #2
    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

    of the top of my head WITHOUT knowing the model/make of the printer..... dev units.

    do a full fill of each individual color and report back.

    in your profile you say you have 10+ years experience .. in what brand/model?

    IMHO anyone with that much time in should be able to give better information.

    "Due to COVID-19 I cannot get someone to check the printer as my city is in complete lockdown." again if you are a 10yr tech why do you need someone else to come out and service your printer?

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    • schmeckles22
      Technician
      • Jun 2020
      • 34

      #3
      Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      of the top of my head WITHOUT knowing the model/make of the printer..... dev units.

      do a full fill of each individual color and report back.
      Sorry! I should have mentioned - It's a C284e.
      Dev units ! Not the news I wanted to hear as they are not cheap. I have done a full fill on Cyan,Magenta and Yellow and it's difficult to see any lines, they are present but not as noticeable than the image sent above.

      I corrected my profile, not sure why it mentions 10+ years, definitely not a technician that's for sure (Printers drive me nuts)

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      • Flash
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • May 2007
        • 378

        #4
        Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

        Press Utility, Check consumable life and replace any items that are at end of life. Clean print head windows and rerun calibration.

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        • schmeckles22
          Technician
          • Jun 2020
          • 34

          #5
          Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

          Originally posted by Flash
          Press Utility, Check consumable life and replace any items that are at end of life. Clean print head windows and rerun calibration.
          The Drum Units show 0% but the supplier insists that they replaced the chip and when questioned he said the engineer changed a setting and this is the reason they show 0%, when setting is disabled consumable percentage will come back.

          "That’s a setting on the machine in service mode so you can use the drums past the allowance, Konica restrict the drums miles before they actually need replacing so most people want to have that setting on so you can continue printing after it says the life has expired on the drum, you can’t do that if the settings off. My engineer is away this week but if you want instructions on how to turn that back on I’ll get them for you when he returns."

          I am really trying to avoid buying the wrong part here as they are not cheap.

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          • Synthohol
            Certified Konica Expert

            Site Contributor
            5,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2016
            • 5463

            #6
            Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

            fuck the chip and all who use them.
            replace the damn worn consumables and fix the damn thing!

            normally i dont get that rude and direct but im tired of seeing "I put a band-aid on a broken arm but it still hurts"
            im starting to think maybe Phil has it right all along
            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
            The medication helps though...

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            • schmeckles22
              Technician
              • Jun 2020
              • 34

              #7
              Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

              Originally posted by Synthohol
              fuck the chip and all who use them.
              replace the damn worn consumables and fix the damn thing!

              normally i dont get that rude and direct but im tired of seeing "I put a band-aid on a broken arm but it still hurts"
              im starting to think maybe Phil has it right all along

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              • mrwho
                Major Asshole!

                Site Contributor
                2,500+ Posts
                • Apr 2009
                • 4303

                #8
                Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

                Without reading the replies and most of your post, by looking at the picture:

                - Charging Units
                - Drum Units
                - Development Units

                in this order.

                Also, if the machine has it, and to minimize the problem, adjust the background voltage to either the maximum or minimum allowed (can't remember which one, I mainly do Ricoh nowadays).
                ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                Mascan42

                'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                Ibid

                I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                • schmeckles22
                  Technician
                  • Jun 2020
                  • 34

                  #9
                  Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

                  Originally posted by mrwho
                  Without reading the replies and most of your post, by looking at the picture:

                  - Charging Units
                  - Drum Units
                  - Development Units

                  in this order.

                  Also, if the machine has it, and to minimize the problem, adjust the background voltage to either the maximum or minimum allowed (can't remember which one, I mainly do Ricoh nowadays).
                  I have no idea where charging units go on a c284e, I will start with Drum units Wish me luck

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                  • mrwho
                    Major Asshole!

                    Site Contributor
                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 4303

                    #10
                    Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

                    Originally posted by schmeckles22
                    I have no idea where charging units go on a c284e, I will start with Drum units Wish me luck
                    I believe the drum units include the chargers on those models...
                    ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                    Mascan42

                    'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                    Ibid

                    I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                    • Phil B.
                      Field Supervisor

                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 22808

                      #11
                      Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

                      Originally posted by Synthohol
                      fuck the chip and all who use them.
                      replace the damn worn consumables and fix the damn thing!

                      normally i dont get that rude and direct but im tired of seeing "I put a band-aid on a broken arm but it still hurts"
                      im starting to think maybe Phil has it right all along
                      Thanks Brother!

                      Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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                      • allan
                        RTFM!!

                        5,000+ Posts
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 5445

                        #12
                        Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

                        Originally posted by Synthohol
                        fuck the chip and all who use them.
                        replace the damn worn consumables and fix the damn thing!

                        normally i dont get that rude and direct but im tired of seeing "I put a band-aid on a broken arm but it still hurts"
                        im starting to think maybe Phil has it right all along


                        Hehe let it rip.
                        Hey i do use chips by the way and fuck me for doing it.
                        My non contract customers has no problem with me using them to get all the value out of the parts.
                        Phil has the 6th sense for bullshitters the gift comes with a price.

                        Hey OP. Buddy do you want to fix it yourself?
                        If you don't like taking stuff apart there is a good chance that you will find a way to screw it up.
                        Have you considered hiring a tech?
                        Whatever

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                        • Phil B.
                          Field Supervisor

                          10,000+ Posts
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 22808

                          #13
                          Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

                          Originally posted by allan
                          Hehe let it rip.
                          Hey i do use chips by the way and fuck me for doing it.
                          My non contract customers has no problem with me using them to get all the value out of the parts.
                          Phil has the 6th sense for bullshitters the gift comes with a price.

                          Hey OP. Buddy do you want to fix it yourself?
                          If you don't like taking stuff apart there is a good chance that you will find a way to screw it up.
                          Have you considered hiring a tech?
                          Allan,
                          Thanks I guess? [emoji849]

                          Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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                          • Synthohol
                            Certified Konica Expert

                            Site Contributor
                            5,000+ Posts
                            • Mar 2016
                            • 5463

                            #14
                            Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

                            Originally posted by schmeckles22
                            I never did it myself, I was told it had 80% consumables on the drum units when purchased and received it with 0% and assumed they replaced the drum. I agree with your quote,
                            the person who screwed you over is whom i was addressing i guess. not you if you got stuck with a piece of bruised fruit but with that said in the long run its always better to pop in a new OEM drum and know you should get 80k+ out of it and know its not contributing to the CQ issue.
                            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                            The medication helps though...

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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

                              Site Contributor
                              10,000+ Posts
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 22702

                              #15
                              Re: [PICS] What needs replacing here?

                              Before you spend a lot of money try this:
                              Wand the primary charge wires and laser slit glasses, then print off these images and post the results.

                              130K is not really a lot on the developing units. As long as you're using OEM toner they should be still serviceable.

                              Dirty laser slit glasses could cause a lot of your voids.
                              The lines seen best in orange are probably caused by the magenta drum unit.
                              The images you show indicate to me that you'd be best to start out with the black and magenta drums, and a gradation and stabilization.
                              Once you've done that much you (read: We) can diagnose it further, without spending a lot of money.
                              =^..^=
                              Attached Files
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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