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  • copyman
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    • Sep 2005
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    BizHub C284e strange issue

    Customer said day before they sent a print job and it didn't print so they printed it again and it printed fine. Next day it printed the job that never printed. Is this even possible for the copier to do this? Seems more logical to me print job was on a PC in their office and someone printed it or job was on the network somewhere?

    Never heard of this before so told customer I would look into it and get back to them.

    Any ideas appreciated.

    Thanks in advance
  • patrickjlc
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    • Feb 2015
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    #2
    Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

    It could keep it on the HD or memory, or on the pc printer spool job. Sometimes you get a paper jam and printer will keep trying to print.

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    • rrrohan
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      • Sep 2011
      • 1971

      #3
      Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

      Or it did print and another user accidentally grabbed it, the realised the next day and just place it back on the copier.

      Check job log

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      • copier tech
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        • Jan 2014
        • 7931

        #4
        Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

        Originally posted by copyman
        Customer said day before they sent a print job and it didn't print so they printed it again and it printed fine. Next day it printed the job that never printed. Is this even possible for the copier to do this? Seems more logical to me print job was on a PC in their office and someone printed it or job was on the network somewhere?

        Never heard of this before so told customer I would look into it and get back to them.

        Any ideas appreciated.

        Thanks in advance

        Check the copier is installed on an IP port not WSD.

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

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          • Jul 2007
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          #5
          Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

          Originally posted by copier tech
          Check the copier is installed on an IP port not WSD.

          Yes, WSD port will do this. I've found 3 year old jobs in the print queue.

          Another possibility is that somebody has a duplicate IP address on a mobile device. When they take the laptop home, the job(s) come through. I've seen this on a couple of occasions. The funny part is that the local IT always asserts that couldn't possibly be the case. =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            • Aug 2020
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            #6
            Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

            Originally posted by blackcat4866
            Yes, WSD port will do this. I've found 3 year old jobs in the print queue.

            Another possibility is that somebody has a duplicate IP address on a mobile device. When they take the laptop home, the job(s) come through. I've seen this on a couple of occasions. The funny part is that the local IT always asserts that couldn't possibly be the case. =^..^=

            That's a scenario that I haven't thought of. I'll have to add that to my notes.
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            • allan
              RTFM!!

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              • Apr 2010
              • 5445

              #7
              Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

              Originally posted by rrrohan
              Or it did print and another user accidentally grabbed it, the realised the next day and just place it back on the copier.

              Check job log

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              OP to ask costumer to ask around if someone indeed took it by mistake.
              Whatever

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

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                • Jul 2007
                • 22699

                #8
                Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

                On one occasion I had the IT professional remoted into on my laptop. He watches while I ping the copier's IP. He says: "So? Sure it will ping." I say: "It would ... if the network cable was plugged into the copier ... but it's not. So what am I pinging?" It turned out to be a Samsung cellphone that I could identify by the MAC address.

                On another occasion the IT professional issues me a new IP address for a new install. I say: "There's a problem ... this IP address is already being used, I'm getting a ping without the cable connected. Can I have a different address?" He says: "No, that can't be. I issue the addresses here."
                ??? "Ok, that can't be. Now can I have a different address?"
                =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • rrrohan
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                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1971

                  #9
                  Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

                  Printer warns if it detects IP conflict though

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                  • allan
                    RTFM!!

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                    • Apr 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

                    Originally posted by rrrohan
                    Printer warns if it detects IP conflict though

                    Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

                    Yes some times on the bottom of the screen but not always. Had exactly the scenario BC is describing with the cellphones before. Also identified it to be a phone using the MAC address.
                    Whatever

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                    • rrrohan
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                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1971

                      #11
                      Re: BizHub C284e strange issue

                      Yeah you might be right or it might only check once at startup. I think that's what it's doing when it says Waiting ARP request

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