[Misc] KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

[MADSYS]

Hi all,


I would greatly appreciate to know your market feedback experience with the C250i - C360i series regarding acceptance for print quality using papers from 200gr/m2 up to 300gr/m2. Particularly in those customers in the graphic segment (flyers, line art, photos) that perhaps are trying to upgrade from previous KM models like C284e / C308.


Many thanks for your time.

[tsbservice]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

Probably Not a good move.

[tech51]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

The colour reproduction on this is quite different to the 8 series.

There are soft switches that can be set to alter this but it is still not the same.

I wouldn’t go with one of these in any situation where the customer is fussy about colour reproduction.

These are after all office colour machines, not print production

[tsbservice]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

The problem is Konica Minolta was making overall great color machines last 3-4 generations prior i-series.
Some customers are making advantages on this using them as kinda semi pro machines. With today's technology machines can be even better if manufacturers want which I believe they really DON'T(read as economies and making more $$$).

[Synthohol]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

i would 100% suggest a Fiery controller if they plan on using it for production. for jobflow and color management.

[copier tech]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

Hi all,


I would greatly appreciate to know your market feedback experience with the C250i - C360i series regarding acceptance for print quality using papers from 200gr/m2 up to 300gr/m2. Particularly in those customers in the graphic segment (flyers, line art, photos) that perhaps are trying to upgrade from previous KM models like C284e / C308.


Many thanks for your time.

I have not noticed any significant colour quality difference in the i series to previous models.

The engine design is still pretty much the same, drum, dev transfer fuser etc.

But if you have access to one put them side by side & compare print samples from each.

[emujo2]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

Office machines are still business color, adding the Fiery does not extend the color gamut they are able to reproduce. The machine can work with these media types, but it is 1st a plain paper copier. Anything out side that and you will not be happy. E

[mojorolla]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

This pdf explains the "improvements" from the 4e series to the i Series as it pertains to printing
Agree that a Fiery is a must but these boxes are still a bit squirrely in my opinion so I could not recommend these units for a production environment.
KM 4e vs i Series Color Reproduction.pdf

[tsbservice]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

This pdf explains the "improvements" from the 4e series to the i Series as it pertains to printing
Agree that a Fiery is a must but these boxes are still a bit squirrely in my opinion so I could not recommend these units for a production environment.
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[tech51]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

When first red this document year ago I laughed a lot. What a piece of mastershit
Trending towards gender society I call that!

[REGSIS]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

A customer with C224 100k colour prints and worn drums (and belt) asks for a new machine.
I said that repairing C224 is much more worth it, and he didn't believe me. I made a demo page prjntout on new C300i and was worse than the same printed on his C224 with heavily worn drums (for graphics use).

[tsbservice]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

A customer with C224 100k colour prints and worn drums (and belt) asks for a new machine.
I said that repairing C224 is much more worth it, and he didn't believe me. I made a demo page prjntout on new C300i and was worse than the same printed on his C224 with heavily worn drums (for graphics use).

+1. Completely agree.

[Gift]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

+1. Completely agree.

+2 - xx4e series was neat, xx8 was ok, xx0i is only ok for office print.

Currently I have an open call with bypass/thick paper issues (no feed), we try and modify it with different rollers.

Didn't knew that marketing flyer, sooo funny I almost pooped my pants

[progoffice]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

+3 For the most part, we a selling mostly lightly used 8 series color machines and some new Kyocera. The color on the i series is not on par with the previous generations. With supply line issues, getting new machines in complete is also pretty hard which makes selling used colors even more relevant right now. However, the prices on used equipment have gone up because of this demand.

[konicavod]

Re: KM bizhub C250i - C360i printing heavy papers in the graphic market

Currently I have an open call with bypass/thick paper issues (no feed), we try and modify it with different rollers.

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