Bizhub C654 ADF option disappeared after firmware update

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  • ChrisG
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    • Oct 2013
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    Bizhub C654 ADF option disappeared after firmware update

    Had an old C654 traded in that we intended to use for a shop machine. Email wouldn't work through gmail, so I did the firmware update to the next level from the original base firmware. From Konica's tech support site. The machine updated, threw an internal code, reset, recover data came up, OK, rebooted and came to ready. All except the ADF which it no longer knows is even installed. ADF tab and firmware level is also not available in service mode. Trouble reset, machine initialize, logical format have all been tried with the same result. Cables and all have been reseated though the machine was never moved and the ADF was working fine before the firmware flash. Have flashed twice more moving back one level again, and firmware update always comes back as completed with check sums for all available options including the ADF

    Any thoughts or ideas appreciated
    Chris
    TJL Copy Products
  • Synthohol
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    • Mar 2016
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    #2
    fwiw ive seen the dual scan board in the back go bad causing it to disappear.
    careful with firmware, if it had the special "special fake E" firmware and the bit switches set and you loaded regular FW that may cause it too.
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • ChrisG
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      • Oct 2013
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      #3
      Thanks for reply. The main controller was still at the base G00-72 when I updated but I didn't pay that close of attention to if any of the other controller firmware might have been different with special firmware. Having done firmware for several years now, I didn't go the very latest but due to the age of the "4" series, there was only 3 firmware levels available in the base section. The two before the very newest one were a month apart from each other so I figured I was safe in that regard. I did step back a level just to see if it would come back or not.
      Was there any kind of bulletins that explained the bit switches you mentioned? The series itself is discontinued, so even though info is still available on KMBS, you can't get any phone support. Thanks again for your help.

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      • Synthohol
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        #4
        gmailfw.pdf
        i think this is it
        We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
        The medication helps though...

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        • konicavod
          Technician
          • Feb 2020
          • 27

          #5
          System 1
          Problem unit isolation set
          ADF - Unset

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          • ChrisG
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            • Oct 2013
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            #6
            Tried ADF Set/Unset and it will let you do both but does not change the outcome.

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            • Synthohol
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              #7
              have you tried another dual scan board?
              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
              The medication helps though...

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              • ChrisG
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                • Oct 2013
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                #8
                That is next on my list but only have a 454e on hand in the 4 series and the "E" shows a different part number for the DS board ?

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                • ContactTsak
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2023
                  • 3

                  #9
                  You need to go to the service mode, System 2, ADF settings (i think) and re enable the ADF.

                  Most probably it just got disabled completely during the update from normal 4 version to 4e. I have updated a few machines to e version, most of them lost the counter, only 1 updated seemlessly.

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                  • Albonline
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                    • Sep 2008
                    • 1091

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ChrisG
                    That is next on my list but only have a 454e on hand in the 4 series and the "E" shows a different part number for the DS board ?
                    yes, its a different part. did you look to see if the doc feed type was set?

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                    • ChrisG
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                      • Oct 2013
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                      #11
                      I can disable and reenable the DF from a disabled function standpoint, but there is no ADF tab in service mode. It also does not show any firmware level for the ADF even though when updating the firmware, it shows it as being updated when checking the firmware versions

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                      • Albonline
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1091

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ChrisG
                        I can disable and reenable the DF from a disabled function standpoint, but there is no ADF tab in service mode. It also does not show any firmware level for the ADF even though when updating the firmware, it shows it as being updated when checking the firmware versions
                        try looking at the software switch settings, settings compared to a working unit.

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                        • AlaskaCopyTech
                          Technician
                          • Jan 2024
                          • 27

                          #13
                          Y'all are over complicating this, when you update firmware on a 4 series the ADF turns off in system 2. Re-enable dual scan document feeder and it will be just fine.

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                          • ChrisG
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by AlaskaCopyTech
                            Y'all are over complicating this, when you update firmware on a 4 series the ADF turns off in system 2. Re-enable dual scan document feeder and it will be just fine.
                            Again I wish it were that simple as I would have done that a month ago. There is literally NO ADF under service mode and/or system 2 to set the feeder. It would be on the main page of the service mode for this model as the machine comes with ADF already installed from the factory.

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                            • Synthohol
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                              #15
                              dsipb.jpg did you try another dsipb?
                              if you said so im sorry i missed it.
                              the DSIPB
                              A161H02A00 PWB assembly(PWB-DS ASSY)

                              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                              The medication helps though...

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