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  • adecanmin
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    • Oct 2010
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    #46
    Anyone remember the Minolta ep510 with the toner brush? My manger had me PM one in the early days. He told me some techs would quit after working on one because they were such POS. I made it through and flourished .

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    • Synthohol
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      • Mar 2016
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      #47
      Originally posted by Edgar Uk
      Best machine Di620 & C284 series.
      i loved the 620, that model was my bitch.
      100+ accelerator board upgrades and everything fiery.
      even the duplex gear replacement (a miserable job) to blowing fellow techs minds when i unscrewed a few things and slid the whole scanner away on the rails to replace CCD shit IIRC.
      D.K.Lee training, Garnice, Bakka, Biccochi, those were my mentors.
      miss those guys.

      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
      The medication helps though...

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      • Edgar Uk
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        • Apr 2019
        • 6

        #48
        Originally posted by Synthohol
        i loved the 620, that model was my bitch.
        100+ accelerator board upgrades and everything fiery.
        even the duplex gear replacement (a miserable job) to blowing fellow techs minds when i unscrewed a few things and slid the whole scanner away on the rails to replace CCD shit IIRC.
        D.K.Lee training, Garnice, Bakka, Biccochi, those were my mentors.
        miss those guys.
        The first machine I ever had that did over 1,000,000 copies. I remember a weird quality problem in a school print room. I shut the blinds, turned of the lights, cheated the interlocks & saw like an electrical storm from the transfer corona unit. I put insulation tape under it and job done. Minolta brought a mod film out to cure it. They also had little plastic pips in different colours that went on the cover over the trans/sep unit. Minoltas had terrible trouble with corona end caps..

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        • copyman
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          • Sep 2005
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          #49
          Originally posted by Edgar Uk

          The first machine I ever had that did over 1,000,000 copies. I remember a weird quality problem in a school print room. I shut the blinds, turned of the lights, cheated the interlocks & saw like an electrical storm from the transfer corona unit. I put insulation tape under it and job done. Minolta brought a mod film out to cure it. They also had little plastic pips in different colours that went on the cover over the trans/sep unit. Minoltas had terrible trouble with corona end caps..
          Most OEM's had trouble with corona end caps arcing / shorting. It was just the nature of coronas & high voltage finding easiest path to ground.

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          • Tech09
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            • Apr 2020
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            #50
            LOL staple jigs, thermistor and thermostat jigs, using a long screwdriver to hold up clamshells, rewrapping optics cables, old finishers with 20 trays, RADF belts and Brillianize. One thing I do really miss is being able to take off covers and watching the drive operate, clutches and solenoids working, it was so nice. SO MUCH METAL! Those machines were built to last! I'm surprised my kids didn't have any birth defects after all the chemicals we were exposed to back then. Capacitors as big as, or larger than D-size batteries would give a nice tingle eh? Speaking of clamshells, I've found a couple dead mice and even a snake once, "why is my copier jamming?" "well ma'am, that's because of this here dead snake".

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            • kingarthur
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              • Feb 2008
              • 1198

              #51
              Originally posted by Tech09
              LOL staple jigs, thermistor and thermostat jigs, using a long screwdriver to hold up clamshells, rewrapping optics cables, old finishers with 20 trays, RADF belts and Brillianize. One thing I do really miss is being able to take off covers and watching the drive operate, clutches and solenoids working, it was so nice. SO MUCH METAL! Those machines were built to last! I'm surprised my kids didn't have any birth defects after all the chemicals we were exposed to back then. Capacitors as big as, or larger than D-size batteries would give a nice tingle eh? Speaking of clamshells, I've found a couple dead mice and even a snake once, "why is my copier jamming?" "well ma'am, that's because of this here dead snake".
              I used to love working on those finishers. I had the knack of replacing the cam/gear that raised the bins up/down - down to a fine art, if any of my colleagues had a finisher problem, they'd leave it to me
              Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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              • copyman
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                #52
                Speaking of finishers I'm sure the old timers will remember that early on the OEM's didn't make a finisher for their machines, they were made and sold by third party companies like Gradco, etc. And yes they were mostly all metal. Back then one of the worse call for a tech was a finisher call for bins out of alignment. What a nightmare!

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                • Synthohol
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                  #53
                  since its been 20+ years i feel i can tell this story.
                  i was sent to a police station in a high crime town (hint, it has a huge airport) one day and upon arrival the 20 bin sorter had about 10 bins shattered and a hole in the cover i could put my finger through in the door.
                  i asked what happened and i was told to just fix it, order what it needs and dont worry about how it happened.
                  it was obvious some cop having a bad day decided that the best way to teach the copier jamming was punishable by death and was to shoot it multiple times.
                  they paid the $2k bill. your hard tax money at work.
                  We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                  The medication helps though...

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                  • kingarthur
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                    • Feb 2008
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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Synthohol
                    since its been 20+ years i feel i can tell this story.
                    i was sent to a police station in a high crime town (hint, it has a huge airport) one day and upon arrival the 20 bin sorter had about 10 bins shattered and a hole in the cover i could put my finger through in the door.
                    i asked what happened and i was told to just fix it, order what it needs and dont worry about how it happened.
                    it was obvious some cop having a bad day decided that the best way to teach the copier jamming was punishable by death and was to shoot it multiple times.
                    they paid the $2k bill. your hard tax money at work.
                    so it didn't "fall down the stairs" then....we've had a few machines in cop stations, can't believe the abuse they had - the amount of shredders that had plastic evidence bags go through them, except, they didn't go through, you just get a mass of plastic in the cutting heads.....
                    Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                    • Fabrikas
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                      • May 2021
                      • 4

                      #55
                      Yo empecé ajustando calidad de copia con los vr

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                      • 3ktlc
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                        • Feb 2018
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                        #56
                        Started in 1985.

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                        • elmaligno
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                          • Oct 2009
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                          #57
                          My workhorse was the EP5400. It had so many faults in everything, clutches, plates, drive chains, paper guide plates, paper take-up system, duplex, toner spillage, that I learned so much with it, especially about jams, that it served me very well for later models.
                          But I started with the EP270, 2100, 8600, 3170, 4230... nightmares of which we only keep the good memories because the brain filters out the bad ones to protect us...
                          Field technician since 1994

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                          • Tech09
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                            #58
                            I started here in 98. The big machines for me back then were 5370-6190s. The capacitors on those big boys would certainly give you a good tingle.

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                            • Synthohol
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                              #59
                              bicycle chains, white shirts and ties.
                              one of these things didnt belong.
                              can you guess which?
                              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                              The medication helps though...

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                              • copyman
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Synthohol
                                bicycle chains, white shirts and ties.
                                one of these things didnt belong.
                                can you guess which?
                                The first thing comes to mind is the tie. I could never figure out why we had to wear tie back then. My guess is so the owners could charge more by making us techs look professional. Wish I had a dollar for every time I was asked by secretaries, etc why I was dressed so nice to work on copiers. And was even servicing liquid machines with the monkey suit on!
                                Two things I was taught early on was keep your tie tucked into shirt when working on machine and scissors close by in case tie got fed into machine

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