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  • bobdee
    Technician
    • Dec 2021
    • 11

    Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

    I am using Konica Minolta Bizhub C45. The Machine works correctly until recently the yellow keep repeat image. I have tried the Transfer Belt in other machine and it works fine. When I swapped Yellow and Cyan Drum Units, the yellow Image still keep repeating itself whiles the Yellow Drum Unit Prints correctly at the Cyan Slot.

    Attached is a copy of an envelope printed by the printer.
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  • Copier Addict
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    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2013
    • 12685

    #2
    Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

    Originally posted by bobdee
    I am using Konica Minolta Bizhub C45. The Machine works correctly until recently the yellow keep repeat image. I have tried the Transfer Belt in other machine and it works fine. When I swapped Yellow and Cyan Drum Units, the yellow Image still keep repeating itself whiles the Yellow Drum Unit Prints correctly at the Cyan Slot.

    Attached is a copy of an envelope printed by the printer.

    How often does the fault repeat? Is it always the same shape?

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    • adecanmin
      Trusted Tech

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      250+ Posts
      • Oct 2010
      • 269

      #3
      Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

      Originally posted by bobdee
      I am using Konica Minolta Bizhub C45. The Machine works correctly until recently the yellow keep repeat image. I have tried the Transfer Belt in other machine and it works fine. When I swapped Yellow and Cyan Drum Units, the yellow Image still keep repeating itself whiles the Yellow Drum Unit Prints correctly at the Cyan Slot.

      Attached is a copy of an envelope printed by the printer.
      OEM toner? You can up the heat in the fuser Thick 1?

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      • bobdee
        Technician
        • Dec 2021
        • 11

        #4
        Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

        Originally posted by copier addict
        How often does the fault repeat? Is it always the same shape?
        Mostly the same shape and there is bit spread of yellow after the yellow image is repeated. You can check the image attached
        Attached Files

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        • bobdee
          Technician
          • Dec 2021
          • 11

          #5
          Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

          Originally posted by adecanmin
          OEM toner? You can up the heat in the fuser Thick 1?
          Please this happens to only Yellow. When you swapped the yellow drum unit to either Magenta or Cyan, it prints correct without repeating image. But when you place any drum Unit at the yellow slot, it repeats the image even new drum unit.

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

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            • Jul 2007
            • 22599

            #6
            Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

            If the yellow developer is overtoning you can see something like this.
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • Phil B.
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              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2016
              • 22809

              #7
              Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

              Originally posted by bobdee
              I am using Konica Minolta Bizhub C45. The Machine works correctly until recently the yellow keep repeat image. I have tried the Transfer Belt in other machine and it works fine. When I swapped Yellow and Cyan Drum Units, the yellow Image still keep repeating itself whiles the Yellow Drum Unit Prints correctly at the Cyan Slot.

              Attached is a copy of an envelope printed by the printer.
              Ok.. missing something.
              When you swap Y to C..it still has the defect on the c now Y drum?
              So.. problem didn't move, what is the other part in image formation chain?
              HINT yellow dev unit.
              It did move with drum swap.. Drum


              Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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              • Toxic
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Dec 2009
                • 689

                #8
                Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

                I think erase lamp for yellow does not work.
                Have that case on other machine series, unpluged connector for led erase lamp.

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                • Woxner
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 798

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

                  Does this happen on other color copies?

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                  • femaster
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • May 2011
                    • 1346

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

                    Definitely check yellow development unit as others have suggested, but I was thinking along the same lines as Toxic, that there might by an issue with the yellow erase lamps.
                    A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                    My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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                    • TEST10
                      Technician

                      50+ Posts
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 65

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

                      Originally posted by bobdee
                      Please this happens to only Yellow. When you swapped the yellow drum unit to either Magenta or Cyan, it prints correct without repeating image. But when you place any drum Unit at the yellow slot, it repeats the image even new drum unit.
                      When you say that you try other drum units on the yellow and you get the same problem of the repatted image, the yellow development unit remains? have you only tried cylinder unit?
                      Because I remember something similar once and it was moisture in the toner!

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                      • bobdee
                        Technician
                        • Dec 2021
                        • 11

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

                        Originally posted by blackcat4866
                        If the yellow developer is overtoning you can see something like this.
                        Please Thanks for your concern. If I may ask, what causes the developer to overtone??

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                        • bobdee
                          Technician
                          • Dec 2021
                          • 11

                          #13
                          Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

                          Originally posted by TEST10
                          When you say that you try other drum units on the yellow and you get the same problem of the repatted image, the yellow development unit remains? have you only tried cylinder unit?
                          Because I remember something similar once and it was moisture in the toner!
                          Please thanks for your support. Yes, I changed only the Yellow Drum Unit, whiles the Developer Unit remains in the machine. I have never tried changing the Developer Unit.

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                          • bobdee
                            Technician
                            • Dec 2021
                            • 11

                            #14
                            Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

                            Originally posted by Phil B.
                            Ok.. missing something.
                            When you swap Y to C..it still has the defect on the c now Y drum?
                            So.. problem didn't move, what is the other part in image formation chain?
                            HINT yellow dev unit.
                            It did move with drum swap.. Drum


                            Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
                            Thanks. Yes, When I swapped C to Y, still the image repeated at yellow whiles printing with C drum there. Apart from the yellow repeats image, the printer prints fine.

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                            • bobdee
                              Technician
                              • Dec 2021
                              • 11

                              #15
                              Re: Bizhub c454 repeat yellow image

                              Originally posted by Toxic
                              I think erase lamp for yellow does not work.
                              Have that case on other machine series, unpluged connector for led erase lamp.
                              Thank you, I will try that.

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