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  • copytrust
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    • Feb 2010
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    Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

    Hello guys i have a client with a Minolta c253 sometimes his machines prints black and white on colour mode!
    1/20 there is a black print, and sometimes 2/20, this is something never seen before, any clues??
  • Hansoon
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    Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

    I had (have?) one doing this. Changing the transfer belt cured it for the moment. No service codes however when it happened so I am still not really sure if the problem lays in the TB or machine itself. Machine is working now since 3 weeks after I changed the transfer belt.

    Hans
    " Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0 "

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    • copytrust
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      Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

      Thank you for the repply i will try a transfer belt, i have to say it is a very odd problem, i was thinking network-software.

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      • copytrust
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        Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

        Hansoon
        Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints
        I had (have?) one doing this. Changing the transfer belt cured it for the moment. No service codes however when it happened so I am still not really sure if the problem lays in the TB or machine itself. Machine is working now since 3 weeks after I changed the transfer belt.

        Hans


        After replacing the transfer belt and testing the machine it seems everything is ok, thank you very much for your reply.

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        • Hansoon
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          Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

          Thanks for the feed back. I sincerely hope for both of us that its indeed the TB. Still I'm not very convinced that the problem lays only within the TB itself cause I cannot technically explain the phenomena.

          Hans
          " Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0 "

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          • srslyartyg
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            • Nov 2014
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            #6
            Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

            Check the Printer Driver settings. I've seen this before. Make sure it's not the monochrome driver for some reason and make sure it's not defaulted to override the color option.

            Good luck.

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            • Cookr
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              Might help I had same Problem on a c203. Customer ended up upgrading anyway but my problem was the transfer rollers were not dropping on CMY.

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              • Hansoon
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                • AjitN
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                  #9
                  Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

                  Originally posted by copytrust
                  Hello guys i have a client with a Minolta c253 sometimes his machines prints black and white on colour mode!
                  1/20 there is a black print, and sometimes 2/20, this is something never seen before, any clues??
                  I would like to have some more inf. about problem.
                  When 1/20 or 2/20 prints in black means what ever color in CMY does not get printed and where ever there is black in the file that gets printed OR all CMY area gets converted in to black.
                  In first case it could be 1st transfer roller retract problem as the clutch is sluggish and it is not holding transfer rolls on drum unit firmly.
                  In second case check the job and driver settings, in the same job if few pages have very few % of color mixed with black, try full color and put off pure black as machine will treat that as black page.
                  Last I think of upgrading OR loading firmware.
                  Hope this helps

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                  • copier tech
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                    Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

                    I had this exact same problem, all I did was clean the ID patch sensors & problem never came back. This will also explain your P-codes
                    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                    For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                    www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                    • artsani_it
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                      • Jun 2017
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                      #11
                      Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

                      Originally posted by copier tech
                      I had this exact same problem, all I did was clean the ID patch sensors & problem never came back. This will also explain your P-codes
                      hello. we have the exact same problem. could you tell us where are those ID patch sensors located? thank you!

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                      • copier tech
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                        Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

                        Originally posted by artsani_it
                        hello. we have the exact same problem. could you tell us where are those ID patch sensors located? thank you!


                        Have a a read of the service manual (link below)


                        http://www.arbikas.com/view/locator/..._c353_A02E.pdf
                        Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                        For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

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                        • artsani_it
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                          • Jun 2017
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                          #13
                          Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

                          Originally posted by copier tech


                          Have a a read of the service manual (link below)


                          http://www.arbikas.com/view/locator/..._c353_A02E.pdf
                          thank you. i wasn't able to find in the service manual, no info about those sensors. could you be more specific, please?

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                          • copier tech
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                            Re: Minolta c253 on colour mode black and white prints

                            This this service manual, page 43.



                            www.https://mega.nz/#!tYMQ3bzI!GKB9JWxgh...OWg49tw7qzD9wY






                            Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                            For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                            www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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