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  • Kasun
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 9

    #1

    PRODUCTION PRINTER

    Dear All,

    Cloud you please tell me what are the production printer models(either B/W or Colour) that can handle 350 gsm papers(boards).

    Thank you.
  • allan
    RTFM!!

    5,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2010
    • 5462

    #2
    Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

    Dear Lyssa. There seems to be a hole in this bucket!

    Whatever

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    • slimslob
      Retired

      Site Contributor
      25,000+ Posts
      • May 2013
      • 37490

      #3
      Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

      The Pro C5100s can handle 300 gms through the bypass but only as a cover sheet. The best I can see to actually print on is 256 gms on the Pro 5100s and 110 gms on everything else through the LCIT. Pro 8100s will also do 300 cover through the LCIT and 256 cover through trays 1-3.

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      • Kasun
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 9

        #4
        Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

        Originally posted by slimslob
        The Pro C5100s can handle 300 gms through the bypass but only as a cover sheet. The best I can see to actually print on is 256 gms on the Pro 5100s and 110 gms on everything else through the LCIT. Pro 8100s will also do 300 cover through the LCIT and 256 cover through trays 1-3.

        Dear Sir,

        Does it mean Ricoh does not have any kind of machine that can handle 350gsm? Also could you please confirm Pro C901+ can do this?

        Regards

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        • JrTech
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Jun 2013
          • 217

          #5
          Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

          Only machine that I have seen do above 310gsm is what you will get with most production models is the Xerox Color 800/1000i (350gsm). I recently saw the Xerox Color 1000i (Same as the 800 according to the brochure) in action for a customer who was looking at replacing their current solution due to increased media variations. The Xerox Color 1000i was able to produce exactly what the customer needed it for. We also looked at the Ricoh C5100s (256gsm), Ricoh C7100 (300gsm), Konica Minolta C71 (300gsm), Konica Minolta C1100 (350gsm). The print samples of the customer files were noticeably different. While the KM C1100 was able to do a 350 gsm only out of the Bypass Tray, the downfall was not being able to duplex from there. The difference in the prints comes down to the Resolution DPI and we noticed that the models varied from 1200 x 3600 to 1200 x 4800 and only one had a true 2400 x 2400 DPI and that was the Xerox Color 1000i. The black on the Ricoh C7100 and KM C1100 was not as "rich" on the coated stock of 300gsm. On the samples of just monochrome all models produced prints in "excellent" condition, now on the samples of heavy color coverage of mostly cyan on 12 x 18 coated 350gsm long grain, the samples looked in "excellent" condition as well. Compared to our original prints from the current Ricoh C900 on 11 x 17 coated 256gsm. Do some research and get print samples of your own files and compare them.

          Hope this helps

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          • Tonerbomb
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            2,500+ Posts
            • Feb 2005
            • 2589

            #6
            Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

            The pro C7100 family will do 360 gsm from tray 4 in the lcit. The c901GA+ will do 350 gsm from trays 3 and 4 of the lcit. Both support duplex of 360/350 gsm respectivly.......
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            • Rorschach
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Nov 2008
              • 64

              #7
              Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

              Among the color production machines, the Pro C901+ will handle up to 350gsm through the LCT, the Pro C71xx will handle up to 360gsm through the vacuum feed LCT, and the Pro C91xx will handle up to 400gsm from any tray.

              I've been working on the Pro C9110 for about a year and a half now, and my account with six of these boxes runs up to 16pt stock that's slightly more than 400gsm as well. I've also had decent success with 11pt (620gsm!) MagneCote magnetic stock in the C9110, and some success with it on the C71xx.

              I can't speak to the B/W models, as I'm exclusively color production.
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              • Kasun
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 9

                #8
                Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

                Originally posted by JrTech
                Only machine that I have seen do above 310gsm is what you will get with most production models is the Xerox Color 800/1000i (350gsm). I recently saw the Xerox Color 1000i (Same as the 800 according to the brochure) in action for a customer who was looking at replacing their current solution due to increased media variations. The Xerox Color 1000i was able to produce exactly what the customer needed it for. We also looked at the Ricoh C5100s (256gsm), Ricoh C7100 (300gsm), Konica Minolta C71 (300gsm), Konica Minolta C1100 (350gsm). The print samples of the customer files were noticeably different. While the KM C1100 was able to do a 350 gsm only out of the Bypass Tray, the downfall was not being able to duplex from there. The difference in the prints comes down to the Resolution DPI and we noticed that the models varied from 1200 x 3600 to 1200 x 4800 and only one had a true 2400 x 2400 DPI and that was the Xerox Color 1000i. The black on the Ricoh C7100 and KM C1100 was not as "rich" on the coated stock of 300gsm. On the samples of just monochrome all models produced prints in "excellent" condition, now on the samples of heavy color coverage of mostly cyan on 12 x 18 coated 350gsm long grain, the samples looked in "excellent" condition as well. Compared to our original prints from the current Ricoh C900 on 11 x 17 coated 256gsm. Do some research and get print samples of your own files and compare them.

                Hope this helps

                Thank you for your support sir. It really help me

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                • Kasun
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 9

                  #9
                  Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

                  Originally posted by Rorschach
                  Among the color production machines, the Pro C901+ will handle up to 350gsm through the LCT, the Pro C71xx will handle up to 360gsm through the vacuum feed LCT, and the Pro C91xx will handle up to 400gsm from any tray.

                  I've been working on the Pro C9110 for about a year and a half now, and my account with six of these boxes runs up to 16pt stock that's slightly more than 400gsm as well. I've also had decent success with 11pt (620gsm!) MagneCote magnetic stock in the C9110, and some success with it on the C71xx.

                  I can't speak to the B/W models, as I'm exclusively color production.

                  Dear Sir,

                  Appreciate for your valuable reply. Could you please confirm can Pro C901+ only can handle 350gsm with LCT? Also considering the paper registration(when both side printing) how accurate is it?


                  Thank you

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                  • qbert69
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1152

                    #10
                    Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

                    ...an offset printing press?

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                    • slimslob
                      Retired

                      Site Contributor
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                      • May 2013
                      • 37490

                      #11
                      Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

                      One other thing to look into would be s wide format inkjet banner printer. Some of them can handle cut sheet poster board flat fed from the back, if I remember correctly up to 1/4 inch in thickness.

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                      • Rorschach
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 64

                        #12
                        Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        One other thing to look into would be s wide format inkjet banner printer. Some of them can handle cut sheet poster board flat fed from the back, if I remember correctly up to 1/4 inch in thickness.
                        I've seen the new Ricoh Mimaki flatbeds print on sheet metal and a door. Pretty amazing to watch that in action.
                        Last edited by Rorschach; 05-18-2016, 06:23 PM.
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                        • Rorschach
                          Technician

                          50+ Posts
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 64

                          #13
                          Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

                          Originally posted by Kasun
                          Could you please confirm can Pro C901+ only can handle 350gsm with LCT? Also considering the paper registration(when both side printing) how accurate is it?
                          The Pro C901+ Graphics Arts edition will handle 350gsm through the A3/DLT LCT only. The A4/LT LCT can only handle 216gsm from trays 3&4 and 163gsm from tray 5. Trays 1&2 in the mainframe can only handle up to 220gsm.

                          The above is all per the product support guide.

                          Registration is what you'd expect with a Ricoh. Heh. The heavier stocks have a small tendency to skew when the "Guide: Arm: Shift" begins to wear from running against the cams all day long. It's a simple fix when this happens. You may also need to adjust the buckle a bit for heavier stock, as I've noticed this fixes a whole array of problems from ptr late jams to registration in the paper feed direction.
                          Today's subliminal quote is:

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                          • Kasun
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2015
                            • 9

                            #14
                            Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

                            Originally posted by qbert69
                            ...an offset printing press?

                            No

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                            • brotherlarry
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 55

                              #15
                              Re: PRODUCTION PRINTER

                              The MGI Meteor check it out not for the feint of Heart $$$$$

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