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  • Gab
    Senior Tech
    • Aug 2015
    • 633

    MP2501

    maCHINE has abou 32k copies. In the past i had replaced developer due to dark background.
    Perhaps it was the toner .
    Now machine print a black line at the middle and dark background. I used geniuin toner and replaced drum and blade. Not Genuin drum.
    Now image is ok at the middle and light at both edges of a4 paper size. I executed sp 2-802 and 2 -801 with no result.
    I plan to replace developer too but i am sceptic because thw same i had thw same problem (image ok in the middle and light at edges ) and then i replaced Developer , drum (genuin) and problem remained. also i swaped a whole drum unit from an other machine for testing with no result.
    Is this machine so toner sensitive? Not genuin drum (i have used it in af 1022 and 1015 with no problems) causes such problems? Does some values change and couses this problem and these values remains and after dev and drum replacement?
    I already have replaced drum and i am afraid if i replace dev too the problem will remain.

    i.e About the other machine ia have some posts in the past.
  • fshead
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2009
    • 2356

    #2
    Re: MP2501

    it pretty easy to troubleshoot these problems,make a copy and stop it midcycle,pull drum and check..
    you might have "crud" in developer and if you want to
    spend time you could empty all developer unto a clean newspaper and check..

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    • Phil B.
      Field Supervisor

      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2016
      • 22808

      #3
      Re: MP2501

      you mention all the work on drum and dev unit... did you clean all laser / trans sections?

      what did your voltage readings show?

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      • fbkhan3
        Trusted Tech

        250+ Posts
        • May 2012
        • 421

        #4
        Re: MP2501

        If you could mention the Developer type(Part Number) because developer and Toner used in this series of Machines are different then previous Models.


        Regard's

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        • barratec
          Trusted Tech

          100+ Posts
          • Jun 2008
          • 162

          #5
          Re: MP2501

          Check laser unit!

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          • Gab
            Senior Tech
            • Aug 2015
            • 633

            #6
            Re: MP2501

            Originally posted by fbkhan3
            If you could mention the Developer type(Part Number) because developer and Toner used in this series of Machines are different then previous Models.


            Regard's
            Developer is the right one . I know that developer in this machine is different thah those in af 2018 and af 2000

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            • Gab
              Senior Tech
              • Aug 2015
              • 633

              #7
              Re: MP2501

              Originally posted by barratec
              Check laser unit!
              It is almost impossible to be laser unit. As i tald you before i replace drum , image was with dark background . I just replaced opc drum and blade and used geniuin toner istand of compatible . And after those replacements image is light at the edges.

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              • slimslob
                Retired

                Site Contributor
                25,000+ Posts
                • May 2013
                • 35066

                #8
                Re: MP2501

                If you do not use the correct toner for the developer being used, the machine will make good copies immediately after replacing the developer. As the incorrect toner is added to the developer, the quality goes to crap. So if you are trying to save money by purchasing cheap drums, developer and toner, you are wasting money in the long run.

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                • fshead
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2356

                  #9
                  Re: MP2501

                  look considering you had probably a slight dumping of toner before this i would
                  clean everything where toner would drop including laser unit..
                  if it s spotless when you pull it then just drop it back in......

                  when i was a product specialist i f..kng hated going to CQ callbacks and find the tech never cleaned optics or interior of machine..MCP

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                  • sandmanmac
                    Field Supervisor

                    Site Contributor
                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 3947

                    #10
                    Re: MP2501

                    Originally posted by Phil B.
                    you mention all the work on drum and dev unit... did you clean all laser / trans sections?
                    Agreed. There's no mention of cleaning the laser shield glass which is the likely cause at this point

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                    • tufbnme
                      Trusted Tech

                      250+ Posts
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 493

                      #11
                      Re: MP2501

                      Check the charge roller.

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                      • Mark Bbb
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1662

                        #12
                        Re: MP2501

                        Originally posted by fshead
                        look considering you had probably a slight dumping of toner before this i would
                        clean everything where toner would drop including laser unit..
                        if it s spotless when you pull it then just drop it back in......

                        when i was a product specialist i f..kng hated going to CQ callbacks and find the tech never cleaned optics or interior of machine..MCP
                        i have had several high level lessons "English language" and i practice it almost every day...
                        So, I know that the words are English, but what are they trying to say?
                        Is this a language speaken in space? Or when eaten space cake?

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                        • patrickjlc
                          Trusted Tech

                          100+ Posts
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 212

                          #13
                          Re: MP2501

                          Check transfer roller/ unit.

                          Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

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                          • sandmanmac
                            Field Supervisor

                            Site Contributor
                            2,500+ Posts
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 3947

                            #14
                            Re: MP2501

                            Originally posted by Gab
                            It is almost impossible to be laser unit. As i tald you before i replace drum , image was with dark background . I just replaced opc drum and blade and used geniuin toner istand of compatible . And after those replacements image is light at the edges.
                            I'd love to hear your explanation for why replacing a drum would have ANYTHING to do with what could easily (and probably is) dirty laser optics.
                            You see....what likely happend is all that crappy toner was blowing around inside the machine and dusted the shield glass, and possibly more, but you go ahead and argue with everyone, and don't bother even checking!

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                            • barratec
                              Trusted Tech

                              100+ Posts
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 162

                              #15
                              Re: MP2501

                              Originally posted by sandmanmac
                              I'd love to hear your explanation for why replacing a drum would have ANYTHING to do with what could easily (and probably is) dirty laser optics.
                              You see....what likely happend is all that crappy toner was blowing around inside the machine and dusted the shield glass, and possibly more, but you go ahead and argue with everyone, and don't bother even checking!
                              You are right! dark background(caused by developer) and blowing toner on the laser unit are typical in MP2501 machines!

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