Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

[fshead]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

Fshead I feel your pain.

The exchange rate is killing us currently on new Ricoh parts so we also constantly need to find ways to save money.

Ricoh will charge almost double for a colour drum vs the black in the same machine?!

They are also creative when for instance fusing units look the same they will fiddle the wires in the connector so that it will report that the unit is not set....

There is no reason why parts cannot be more cross compatible - oh wait it is called profit!! That is why we receive a constant hiding in that department.....

Currently the biggest pain are the boards when some cost between half to 100% of a machine's value!?


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I am lucky where i live in a fat city that buys new machines and sends back the "old"
3 years later,barely broken in..
I actually recently just buy low meter spc430dn and take the toners,drums,ITB unit,fuser and transfer assembly.
I wrapped them and tape them and leave the carcass for the recycle guy who picks up the scrap metal.
I use these for my mpc300,400 and mpc401 s that are a solid box..
I dont sell any brand new which means i am not having to learn the odd issues that may arise..
and having spare machines means i can gut boards or place a loaner if i need to buy a "parts machine with high meter and
maybe broken cosmetics..I out of principle will not pay $500 for a controller..

[Polarbear]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

no.
and those techs that work for a big dealer who hand out boards and big ticket items like candy have to understand us "now independents"
Cant make a living competing unless we find ways to recycle some parts.
If you check the manuals only one would never use a mpc3000/mpc2800 etc drum in the latter models nor black pcu s in color units..

Fshead I feel your pain.

The exchange rate is killing us currently on new Ricoh parts so we also constantly need to find ways to save money.

Ricoh will charge almost double for a colour drum vs the black in the same machine?!

They are also creative when for instance fusing units look the same they will fiddle the wires in the connector so that it will report that the unit is not set....

There is no reason why parts cannot be more cross compatible - oh wait it is called profit!! That is why we receive a constant hiding in that department.....

Currently the biggest pain are the boards when some cost between half to 100% of a machine's value!?


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[fshead]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

hmmm I'm sure the SERVICE MANUAL would have that information also ... wouldn't it?

no.
and those techs that work for a big dealer who hand out boards and big ticket items like candy have to understand us "now independents"
Cant make a living competing unless we find ways to recycle some parts.
If you check the manuals only one would never use a mpc3000/mpc2800 etc drum in the latter models nor black pcu s in color units..

[slimslob]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

hmmm I'm sure the SERVICE MANUAL would have that information also ... wouldn't it?

If you go to the link he posted, it mentions absolutely nothing about using a 2050 ITB in a 2051.

[fshead]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

hmmm I'm sure the SERVICE MANUAL would have that information also ... wouldn't it?

I cked point to point via mpc2050 to mpc2551 and regarding the ITB unit the only difference is one uses +5v on pin 31 to BCU
and the other uses-5v on pin 31..IN a digital world does that matter?

[Phil B.]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

No you can not use an MPC2550 ITB unit in an MPC2551 you will get an SC442 error, oh wait thats the error you're getting!


Error Codes > Ricoh > D040 MPC2550 DI-C1 > Code 442

hmmm I'm sure the SERVICE MANUAL would have that information also ... wouldn't it?

[fshead]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

In most instances, the first to occur is what is displayed. SC 442 is for the ITB contact motor. SC 452 is for the PTR contact contact. +24V is common to both either +24S2 or +24S3 which are +24V2 and +24V3 after passing through the interlock switch.

thanks
i swapped a different ITB contact motor assembly with sensor,a different ITB unit and same problem..
I will look at the point to point on both models to see if something is wired different or it just might be time to pick up another machine and
part out this one..
never time in the day for everything

[slimslob]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

I would say that the SC542, which is a fusing unit error is the leader of the pack.

He is getting an SC 452,not 542

[sandmanmac]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

I would say that the SC542, which is a fusing unit error is the leader of the pack.

It's SC452

[jonhiker]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

I would say that the SC542, which is a fusing unit error is the leader of the pack.

[slimslob]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

yeah i saw the part number change but now i am looking to see if my issue is something else..
I am still mulling on this one as i never had this unit running.
it was a bought with blank lcd and i found the customer b4 sending back
to leasing company pulled the hard drive out and never reconnected the two flat ribbon
connectors to the BCU brd..i had used the good ITB unit as a customer swap and never took the old bad one back..
i saw this when cking blown fuses and sensors section.
S20 ITB Contact Sensor L CN234/5 Open/Shorted SC442
shorted 24 V fuse on the PSU. sc442
I get a sc452 on display but via service mode and sc history i get a sc 442 with every sc 452 so who is the leader here?

In most instances, the first to occur is what is displayed. SC 442 is for the ITB contact motor. SC 452 is for the PTR contact contact. +24V is common to both either +24S2 or +24S3 which are +24V2 and +24V3 after passing through the interlock switch.

[fshead]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

yeah i saw the part number change but now i am looking to see if my issue is something else..
I am still mulling on this one as i never had this unit running.
it was a bought with blank lcd and i found the customer b4 sending back
to leasing company pulled the hard drive out and never reconnected the two flat ribbon
connectors to the BCU brd..i had used the good ITB unit as a customer swap and never took the old bad one back..
i saw this when cking blown fuses and sensors section.
S20 ITB Contact Sensor L CN234/5 Open/Shorted SC442
shorted 24 V fuse on the PSU. sc442
I get a sc452 on display but via service mode and sc history i get a sc 442 with every sc 452 so who is the leader here?

[slimslob]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

Mpc2050 older machine ITB unit fits on a MPC2551 OR MPC2051 machine..
I just google both belt only numbers and it seems the belt works in both the
mpc2050 and the mpc2551/mpc2051 series..
thanks

I Checked both parts catalogs. The C2550 currently uses the same ITB as the C2551 ITB, Part Number D1056003. The original part number for the C2550 was D0396003.

[fshead]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

No you can not use an MPC2550 ITB unit in an MPC2551 you will get an SC442 error, oh wait thats the error you're getting!


Error Codes > Ricoh > D040 MPC2550 DI-C1 > Code 442

HI Are you sure of that?
I Google mpc2551 ITB unit and when i found it listed on precision roller they show it
working on both mpc2030/mpc2050/mpc2550 and the needed mpc2551 that i am
trying to finish..

Ricoh Aficio MP C2030 Ricoh Aficio MP C2050 Ricoh Aficio MP C2051 Ricoh Aficio MP C2530 Ricoh Aficio MP C2550 Gestetner MP C2030

[fshead]

Re: Can i use a mpc2050 ITB unit on a mpc2051,it fits

I have 3 ITB units in front of me,2 i know are the mpc2050 series and third i though was mpc2551 but i cant see any difference..
IS there a place i can find the part number stamped or something physical i can tell them apart??
The third unit has no belt in it and i dont want to swap a good belt only to find it unuseable
thanks