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  • copier tech
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    5,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2014
    • 7931

    3rd Party apps on SOP

    Just wondered if anyone has tried putting a non Ricoh app on a SOP panel?

    I'd some time to kill & downloaded a few android apps but when installing it just says failed.

    I believe I need to install a trusted certificate first?
    Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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  • Berserkir-Wolf
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2019
    • 2

    #2
    Re: 3rd Party apps on SOP

    No deal, I'm afraid.
    Nothing to do with a trusted cert.
    A buddy of mine (Android Dev) who is pretty good at bypassing security systems (Google bounties, anyone?) had a go at it with me last year.

    The apks that it pulls in from the 'app store' on the machine itself are all signed by Ricoh, rather than by Google (doesn't touch the Play Store).
    All apps have to be approved and signed by Ricoh for it to work, from what we found in our snooping. Even spoofing the app stream with packet redirection failed out.

    Add to that the fact 'droid apps are built with a minimum Android version specified. The SOP is running a fairly old version. A lot of the API calls no longer exist, so backporting doesn't work.
    Besides, on the 04 machines, a 533MHz CPU is just not enough to run anything like a decent app.

    Who knows though? They may yet open it up for us to play on the IM C series.

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    • copier tech
      Field Supervisor

      5,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2014
      • 7931

      #3
      Re: 3rd Party apps on SOP

      Thanks for the indepth reply!
      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

      For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

      www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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      • Berserkir-Wolf
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2019
        • 2

        #4
        Re: 3rd Party apps on SOP

        No worries.

        The IM series has gone from a ~500MHz ARM based chip to a ~1.6GHz Atom based chip - so we're x86 now, and slowly ditching Java (as the word up the wire goes).
        Still no dice on 3rd party freedom, but they've added a whole lot of other apps in so it's not quite so painful now.

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