mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

[jtymabel]

Trying to install a fiery on a mp c4503 (sp 5193 set to 1) . the fiery tower is labeled e 22c but when i connect it to the copier it shows functional problem.
i can log into the fiery from a pc and i was able to connect to it via command workstation. i noticed that on the command workstation in labeled as a E 22B. I have the system software for the 22b/c. Can a fiery e 22b be changed to a e 22c.?

thanks

[davel]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

Why would you want to put a fiery on a office machine? Are you using gigabit nib.

[jtymabel]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

Why would you want to put a fiery on a office machine? Are you using gigabit nib.

Color output is better (color matching). Customer wanta better output.
Gigabit nib is only for mpc3003 and 3503.

[slimslob]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

Gigabit nib is only for mpc3003 and 3503.

Gigabit connection is required for ALL Fiery. Since you don't even know that, you should not be anywhere near a fiery.

Color controller connection type M3 is for the mpc3003 and 3503 only. For the MP C4503/C5503/6000 requires type M4.

[jtymabel]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

Gigabit connection is required for ALL Fiery. Since you don't even know that, you should not be anywhere near a fiery.

Color controller connection type M3 is for the mpc3003 and 3503 only. For the MP C4503/C5503/6000 requires type M4.

Using the the gigabit ethernet m4. I thought the last post was refering to the m3 (the one that can be installed without opening up the board)

[skinnyb]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

I had one that did wierd things similar, might verify firmware on the machine. I know there is a firmware compatibility chart on the tsrc regarding fiery compatible firmware. General rule of thumb for me is to being all up to date and go from there. What version OS is on the fiery? I believe the original was 1.0 but I ordered DVD to reload one a while back and they sent me 1.1. Maybe if you can get into via CWS, see what patches are on the fiery as well.

Me personally, I can't stand fiery on this machine.. Way overkill for a business color machine. The embedded system is more than sufficient for anything this engine is designed to do. If your customer is that demanding on color quality this isn't the right machine IMHO.

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[jtymabel]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

I had one that did wierd things similar, might verify firmware on the machine. I know there is a firmware compatibility chart on the tsrc regarding fiery compatible firmware. General rule of thumb for me is to being all up to date and go from there. What version OS is on the fiery? I believe the original was 1.0 but I ordered DVD to reload one a while back and they sent me 1.1. Maybe if you can get into via CWS, see what patches are on the fiery as well.

Me personally, I can't stand fiery on this machine.. Way overkill for a business color machine. The embedded system is more than sufficient for anything this engine is designed to do. If your customer is that demanding on color quality this isn't the right machine IMHO.

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Software ver 1.10 patches and firmware all up to date. Customer currently has a mpc5502 with a fiery (movie production). they love it. They need another one for 1 month.

[skinnyb]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

Software ver 1.10 patches and firmware all up to date. Customer currently has a mpc5502 with a fiery (movie production). they love it. They need another one for 1 month.

Question? There are 2 programs that have to be flipped in service mode on the machine. Did you flip them both? One is external print controller on and the other is application in validation for the embedded printer. You have to invalidate the embedded printer with 1 and validate the fiery with the other. If you don't do both, it will error out...

The 4 modes to change from the SM are:

SP5193-001 to 1
SP5895-001 to 1
SP4201-003 from 11 to 15
SP4201-004 from 11 to 15

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[jtymabel]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

[QUOTE=skinnyb;668747]Question? There are 2 programs that have to be flipped in service mode on the machine. Did you flip them both? One is external print controller on and the other is application in validation for the embedded printer. You have to invalidate the embedded printer with 1 and validate the fiery with the other. If you don't do both, it will error out...

The 4 modes to change from the SM are:

SP5193-001 to 1
SP5895-001 to 1
SP4201-003 from 11 to 15
SP4201-004 from 11 to 15

yes. except for sp5895. (didnt want to disable gw scanning)

[slimslob]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

. except for sp5895. (didnt want to disable gw scanning)

GW scanning can be done as long as you disable Fiery Scanning. See this post from more details. you will need 2 network connections. 1 for the fiery and 1 for the MFP.

http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/ricoh-savin-gestetner-lanier/126728-ricoh-mpc-3002-fiery-can-i-enable-scan-option.html?126728=#post592120

[skinnyb]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

[QUOTE=jtymabel;669981]

Question? There are 2 programs that have to be flipped in service mode on the machine. Did you flip them both? One is external print controller on and the other is application in validation for the embedded printer. You have to invalidate the embedded printer with 1 and validate the fiery with the other. If you don't do both, it will error out...

The 4 modes to change from the SM are:

SP5193-001 to 1
SP5895-001 to 1
SP4201-003 from 11 to 15
SP4201-004 from 11 to 15

yes. except for sp5895. (didnt want to disable gw scanning)

There are 2 under 5895. 5895-01 is printer invalidation and 5895-02 is scanner. Just flip 01 to a 1 and leave 02 alone and gw scanning will still work fine. You have to disable embedded printing and enable fiery printing both in order for fiery to work.

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[jtymabel]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

[QUOTE=skinnyb;670051]

There are 2 under 5895. 5895-01 is printer invalidation and 5895-02 is scanner. Just flip 01 to a 1 and leave 02 alone and gw scanning will still work fine. You have to disable embedded printing and enable fiery printing both in order for fiery to work.


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Thanks for the replies...I think the issue is that the e22b fiery only works with mpc6502/8002/ proc5100. The one i have is a e22c, but when i check in command workstation is shows as a e22b.

[fshead]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

Why would you want to put a fiery on a office machine? Are you using gigabit nib.

I cant talk for this guy but on my account i buy lease returns and resell them and if happen upon a fiery and a customer wants it why would
prevent myself from making a few extra dollars..
Now if its going to be a total headache then ill pass but sometimes a customer who wants to be the "kool kid at school" with the latest
gadget..

[jtymabel]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

I cant talk for this guy but on my account i buy lease returns and resell them and if happen upon a fiery and a customer wants it why would
prevent myself from making a few extra dollars..
Now if its going to be a total headache then ill pass but sometimes a customer who wants to be the "kool kid at school" with the latest
gadget..

I rather not deal with the fiery, but i have to. This particular customer is asking for it. You are right. For a couple of dollars is not worth it, but they rent machines year around and its more than just 1 copier. Basically I'm pampering this customer.

[jtymabel]

Re: mp c4503 with e 22c fiery

Update. Found this in an old TSB.

"Refer to the above compatibility table, if you plan to pre-install and pre-configure the E-22C before customersite installation, or if the copier model in use with the E-22C is to be changed.For example, if the copier in use by the customer is C5503, E-22C needs to be pre-installed and preconfiguredwith C5503 or C6003 or C4503."

Maybe the fiery was initially installed on a ProC5100 and it was configured as a E22b.

Also checked all the part numbers for both e22b and e22c and they are identical.