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  • fshead
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Jan 2009
    • 2356

    THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

    Hi
    I have a low meter MPC 3002 "20K,20K COLOR counts"that i place a month ago.
    I did a full service before placing,cleaned all,CKED drums,ITB,fuser etc,optics,FW update,Full calibration,etc etc.
    Customer called complaining about lite pink lines.
    I cked all drums,ITB cl unit etc etc and all looks perfect.
    DOING single color copies no lines and doing service mode printer test sheet no lines can be seen.
    enclosed is a 11 by 17 printout wth 3 pink lines..
    any advice appreciated..
    I was thinking over riding the nvram with another mpc3002 that i store on my laptop if its a software issue.
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  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

    Site Contributor
    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 22702

    #2
    Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

    It's voids in yellow. If you use ColorPic you can see that pink line that passes through your critter's chin turns from magenta to cyan so both those colors are present. And that the yellow density above and below the line is 60%, and in the line is 53%. I'll attach a screen shot in a moment.

    If you print off the 11% ANSI A Color test sheet you'll see voids in yellow. You might have a dirty laser slit glass, or an area of poor fill on the mag roller, or a dirty corona unit (if your Ricoh uses coronas), or a worn drum (in that order of likelihood).

    Ok, that worked poorly. I'll attach the original png files. Import to your PC, then view full size.

    =^..^=
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    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • slimslob
      Retired

      Site Contributor
      25,000+ Posts
      • May 2013
      • 35064

      #3
      Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

      I agree with cat that it is a void not a line. If you use Printer SP 1103-002 Color Pattern, you should be able to see them. Clean the laser shield glasses and repeat Color Pattern.

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      • keithxxiii
        Just a tech

        250+ Posts
        • Nov 2014
        • 468

        #4
        Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

        Usually the dirt from the shield glass is from the inside. So cleaning it with the stick that comes with the machine will not do the job. We ask our refurb team to open the laser unit and do the cleaning of the glass with recommended cleaning materials/cloth.
        Aye! Cut the crap

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        • fshead
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Jan 2009
          • 2356

          #5
          Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          It's voids in yellow. If you use ColorPic you can see that pink line that passes through your critter's chin turns from magenta to cyan so both those colors are present. And that the yellow density above and below the line is 60%, and in the line is 53%. I'll attach a screen shot in a moment.

          If you print off the 11% ANSI A Color test sheet you'll see voids in yellow. You might have a dirty laser slit glass, or an area of poor fill on the mag roller, or a dirty corona unit (if your Ricoh uses coronas), or a worn drum (in that order of likelihood).

          Ok, that worked poorly. I'll attach the original png files. Import to your PC, then view full size.

          =^..^=
          THANKS
          I did do a color test pattern in printer sp 1 103-2 and it seemed good and then took that printed pattern and blew it up to a 11by 17
          opy and did not see any voids.The same doing single color"CYM" copies of a config page.
          At 1st i thought maybe some "snot' on the charge roller but spotless.
          If i have to pull laser unit what are you using to clean slit glass? alcohol.or windex?

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          • fshead
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2009
            • 2356

            #6
            Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

            Originally posted by keithxxiii
            Usually the dirt from the shield glass is from the inside. So cleaning it with the stick that comes with the machine will not do the job. We ask our refurb team to open the laser unit and do the cleaning of the glass with recommended cleaning materials/cloth.


            If i have to pull laser unit what are you using to clean slit glass? alcohol.or windex?

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 22702

              #7
              Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

              Originally posted by fshead
              THANKS
              ...
              If i have to pull laser unit what are you using to clean slit glass? alcohol.or windex?
              I'd try glass cleaner first. If you have something harder to cut, try an orange oil based cleaner, then final rinse with alcohol. Also look inside the laser unit. It can get dusty in there. =^..^=
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • NeoMatrix
                Senior Tech.

                2,500+ Posts
                • Nov 2010
                • 3514

                #8
                Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

                Do the lines enlarge or reduce in size?
                If so, the lines are cause by dirt in the optics.
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                • luca72
                  Field Supervisor

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 1556

                  #9
                  Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

                  Originally posted by fshead
                  Hi
                  I have a low meter MPC 3002 "20K,20K COLOR counts"that i place a month ago.
                  I did a full service before placing,cleaned all,CKED drums,ITB,fuser etc,optics,FW update,Full calibration,etc etc.
                  Customer called complaining about lite pink lines.
                  I cked all drums,ITB cl unit etc etc and all looks perfect.
                  DOING single color copies no lines and doing service mode printer test sheet no lines can be seen.
                  enclosed is a 11 by 17 printout wth 3 pink lines..
                  any advice appreciated..
                  I was thinking over riding the nvram with another mpc3002 that i store on my laptop if its a software issue.


                  try a some times to rotate with the fingers the gear of the development unit of the color concerned at contrary rotation (if you do it with all the unit it is good for him), a few turn in one directione and few turns in other in opposite , maybe some dirt has formed between the doctor blade and the magnetic roller, try, many times it solves
                  "loneliness is an invention of the white man, when we are alone we talk to everything around us, we are never alone" (Ojibwa)

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                  • Michael Craig
                    Technician
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

                    First Make sure your laser slit glasses are clean. Go into single color mode and copy a dark dusting in all 4 colors. The color that has the deletion probably has a bad developer unit.

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                    • fshead
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2356

                      #11
                      Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

                      Originally posted by keithxxiii
                      Usually the dirt from the shield glass is from the inside. So cleaning it with the stick that comes with the machine will not do the job. We ask our refurb team to open the laser unit and do the cleaning of the glass with recommended cleaning materials/cloth.
                      thanks
                      I get that it can be inside but I usually dont pull the laser unit unless the machine had
                      1 a major toner spill
                      2 a machine that has dirt all over itself
                      This machine had neither.
                      I will go back and pull the laser unit

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                      • fshead
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2356

                        #12
                        Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        I agree with cat that it is a void not a line. If you use Printer SP 1103-002 Color Pattern, you should be able to see them. Clean the laser shield glasses and repeat Color Pattern.
                        thanks
                        but the printout looked good as did single colors.
                        I know about developer unit doctor blade voids from earlier series that sat too
                        long in a hot warehouse and had the developer "clump" up and cause voids.

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                        • fshead
                          Service Manager

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 2356

                          #13
                          Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

                          Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                          Do the lines enlarge or reduce in size?
                          If so, the lines are cause by dirt in the optics.
                          To be honest
                          I had to run out after 45 mins as i was on a meter
                          with a 10 min walk,where they tow you.
                          I will return this week
                          thanks

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                          • mikadonovan
                            Senior Tech

                            Site Contributor
                            2,500+ Posts
                            • May 2008
                            • 2936

                            #14
                            Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

                            It does look like toner/developer clumping at a doctor blade. I usually just print a blank page with background color for each cyan, magenta, yellow and black. The line will be evident on one of them. Take a feeler gauge and shove it between the mag roller and doctor blade at the spot where the line is and rotate the mag roller back and forth a few times to break up the clog. Just had to do this on a c3300.
                            NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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                            • COPIERMAN
                              Senior Tech

                              500+ Posts
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 553

                              #15
                              Re: THIN lite "pink' lines only on color prints

                              I had kind of same thing turn out to be optics were dirty. i had replace dev unit and drum assy still had lines then clean optics and it went away.

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