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  • Zaxxon
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Jan 2014
    • 608

    #16
    Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

    Originally posted by anpetros
    It was the fusing unit sleeve...Stil cannot beleive it .At 117k ,less than half of its life.That fusing unit...............Thank you very much for your help.
    Fixing copiers is not a matter of believing the parts counter value is just a guideline, not a guaranteed lifespan.
    Please start you post with brand, model, problem.

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    • fshead
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2009
      • 2376

      #17
      Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

      Originally posted by anpetros
      It was the fusing unit sleeve...Stil cannot beleive it .At 117k ,less than half of its life.That fusing unit...............Thank you very much for your help.
      i agree that the original sleeves suck but after changing them out these models hold up..
      That I can live with...

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      • anpetros
        Technician
        • May 2011
        • 43

        #18
        Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

        Originally posted by Zaxxon
        Fixing copiers is not a matter of believing the parts counter value is just a guideline, not a guaranteed lifespan.
        I agree with that statement but for less than 50% of its life? No.My mind goes there difficult for Ricoh parts.99.999% cover their lifetime.I can accept 10 to 20 %

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        • Phil B.
          Field Supervisor

          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2016
          • 22798

          #19
          Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

          Originally posted by anpetros
          I agree with that statement but for less than 50% of its life? No.My mind goes there difficult for Ricoh parts.99.999% cover their lifetime.I can accept 10 to 20 %
          well if premature failure is a problem... then look at the environment - users - supplies - paper

          does the machine sit unused for a long time? ( staying ready wears down fuser & drums)

          paper weight can make a BIG diff in life of parts

          we all know cheap toner can destroy a unit.

          and lastly.. are they gentle on the machine or rough?

          yields aren't really something that can be depended to go full life... esp with all other factors involved

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          • cadillac2
            Trusted Tech

            Site Contributor
            • Oct 2015
            • 42

            #20
            Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

            the total count may not tell the whole story - a lot of onesy twosy prints will lead to premature failure too because this adds way more revolutions to the sleeve than you would get if you were doing large jobs regularly

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            • fshead
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Jan 2009
              • 2376

              #21
              Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

              where the machine "works" makes a big deal..
              I ve gotten machines wth little counts but had oxidation on most metal areas and others that were in warehouses where they looked like they came out of a coal mine..
              A smokers environment too..
              I have a log of accounts right at ground zero and those machines took a toll from all the crap in the air even after they had major clean ups..

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              • slimslob
                Retired

                Site Contributor
                25,000+ Posts
                • May 2013
                • 37490

                #22
                Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

                Originally posted by fshead
                where the machine "works" makes a big deal..
                I ve gotten machines wth little counts but had oxidation on most metal areas and others that were in warehouses where they looked like they came out of a coal mine..
                A smokers environment too..
                I have a log of accounts right at ground zero and those machines took a toll from all the crap in the air even after they had major clean ups..
                I had machines in an almond packing plant. The almond dust from milling sliced almonds is very fine and will work its way into the push buttons switches used for the bridge unit covers and other doors. I've even had it crap out paper drawer size switches.

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                • blazebusiness
                  SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

                  Site Contributor
                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1250

                  #23
                  Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

                  Originally posted by anpetros
                  hello everybody .I have an mpc 4502 which has problem with black.Toner is not evenly distributed on the paper and i have white or more blacked areas.Please see atachment for details.black pcu has 75k.Thank you all in advance for your help.
                  What's the black meter on that copier? Black Developer units on that model are supposed to go 600,000 but your black image is grainy and just a little undertoned. Clean the black laser and probably buy the D144-9640 black developer powder(which goes 300,000) ----only costs about $35 so I guess I would start by replacing that first and see if the copy quality beefs up.

                  If the meter is even close to 600K I would replace the Developer unit D144-3005 which only costs about $120. At least your issue is with the black------so the parts are super cheap.

                  They are using the good OEM Ricoh toner I assume?
                  sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                  • blazebusiness
                    SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

                    Site Contributor
                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1250

                    #24
                    Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

                    Originally posted by anpetros
                    It was the fusing unit sleeve...Stil cannot beleive it .At 117k ,less than half of its life.That fusing unit...............Thank you very much for your help.
                    Oops...I just saw you found it was the fuser sleeve ------disregard my above post. Those fuser sleeve units fail early a lot. Due to that , we always stock a bunch of them for the 02 and 03 series.

                    Interesting that the CMY/colors didn't manifest the grainy copy quality symptom as profoundly as the black did, since they all pass thru the same fuser.
                    sigpicAnything can be made to work if you fiddle with it long enough- San Diego Copier Repair.com

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                    • mikadonovan
                      Senior Tech

                      Site Contributor
                      2,500+ Posts
                      • May 2008
                      • 2931

                      #25
                      Re: mpc 4502 black color quality

                      Don't forget to clean the ID sensors. The one in the middle is for K.
                      NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING

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