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  • BsK
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2015
    • 7

    [Error Code] SC285 Pro C5100

    Hi,

    I've got a Pro C5100 coming up with SC285 and SC496 (both Music errors). These errors occur when you run SP-3011-4 (Full music) however if you run force pro con , 3011-01, it passes with all 1's when you check 3012.

    The ID sensors array has been replaced, the ITB is in good condition as are the PCU's. The CQ is good and colour registration is in. The Encoder sensor on the ITB ass'y has been cleaned and the PTR has been replaced too.

    Any help would be appreciated.
  • FrohnB
    Service Manager

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    1,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2017
    • 1919

    #2
    Re: SC285 Pro C5100

    Goose's Guide has a hit for SC285/SC496. Says that the Tech. replaced entire ITB unit to resolve.
    Another hit says ID/MUSIC sensor replaced, but you've done that.
    Omertà

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    • Alnashi
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2020
      • 2

      #3

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      • mrwho
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        2,500+ Posts
        • Apr 2009
        • 4303

        #4
        Re: SC285 Pro C5100

        Originally posted by BsK
        Hi,

        I've got a Pro C5100 coming up with SC285 and SC496 (both Music errors). These errors occur when you run SP-3011-4 (Full music) however if you run force pro con , 3011-01, it passes with all 1's when you check 3012.

        The ID sensors array has been replaced, the ITB is in good condition as are the PCU's. The CQ is good and colour registration is in. The Encoder sensor on the ITB ass'y has been cleaned and the PTR has been replaced too.

        Any help would be appreciated.
        Has the problem been solved? If so, how?

        Thank you.
        ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
        Mascan42

        'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

        Ibid

        I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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        • TonerMunkeh
          Professional Moron

          2,500+ Posts
          • Apr 2008
          • 3873

          #5
          Re: SC285 Pro C5100

          How many prints has the transfer belt and bias rollers got on them? They usually need replacing around 1.5m.
          It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

          Hit it.

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          • mrwho
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            • Apr 2009
            • 4303

            #6
            Re: SC285 Pro C5100

            Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
            How many prints has the transfer belt and bias rollers got on them? They usually need replacing around 1.5m.
            Had that same problem and it went away on its own. Details here.
            ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
            Mascan42

            'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

            Ibid

            I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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            • JaysOnTheEDGE
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Jul 2016
              • 60

              #7
              Re: SC285 Pro C5100

              Not sure if this will help you but i once had a C5100 machine that would not run the color registration in user tools it would fail. I had to go in service mode and zero out the laser mirror adjustment motors and then run the MUSIC process. the motors were at the maximum of the adjustment range and would not allow the registration process to complete.

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              • mrwho
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                • Apr 2009
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                #8
                Re: SC285 Pro C5100

                Originally posted by JaysOnTheEDGE
                Not sure if this will help you but i once had a C5100 machine that would not run the color registration in user tools it would fail. I had to go in service mode and zero out the laser mirror adjustment motors and then run the MUSIC process. the motors were at the maximum of the adjustment range and would not allow the registration process to complete.
                There's a mention of that in the service manual, so I tried it too - didn't make a difference. But yes, I believe that if the values are too far away from standard will stop the engine from performing the adjustments. That's also one of the reasons why, when I find an adjustment trouble that I can't solve by traditional means, I backup the NVRAM and then try again after resetting the engine data (didn't work in this case).
                ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                Mascan42

                'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                Ibid

                I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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                • mga
                  Copier Technician

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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1393

                  #9
                  Re: SC285 Pro C5100

                  Give it a full service and replace parts in that area over life not forgetting the ptr and wax bars etc with are in them areas
                  Regards Mark

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                  • mga
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                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1393

                    #10
                    Re: SC285 Pro C5100

                    Originally posted by mrwho
                    There's a mention of that in the service manual, so I tried it too - didn't make a difference. But yes, I believe that if the values are too far away from standard will stop the engine from performing the adjustments. That's also one of the reasons why, when I find an adjustment trouble that I can't solve by traditional means, I backup the NVRAM and then try again after resetting the engine data (didn't work in this case).
                    If you back up nvram and then clear nvram the details what you load back on from the backup would have the same information on it
                    Regards Mark

                    FOR TRADE AND END USER SERVICE CALLS PLEASE VISIT WEB SITE FOR CONTACT DETAILS. COVERING GREATER LONDON {UK} AND ALL SURROUNDING COUNTIES.

                    RICOH, CANON, KYOCERA, KONICA, SHARP, HP/SAMSUNG BROTHER, LEXMARK.

                    https://copierservices.simdif.com

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                    • slimslob
                      Retired

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                      • May 2013
                      • 35057

                      #11
                      Re: SC285 Pro C5100

                      [QUOTE=mrwho;1533019I backup the NVRAM and then try again after resetting the engine data (didn't work in this case).[/QUOTE]

                      With the Pro C5100 you can use SP 5992 SP Text Mode to export SMC reports to a file on an SD card when you have an SC that prevents printing.

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                      • mrwho
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                        • Apr 2009
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                        #12
                        Re: SC285 Pro C5100

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        With the Pro C5100 you can use SP 5992 SP Text Mode to export SMC reports to a file on an SD card when you have an SC that prevents printing.
                        I know - what I meant with "it didn't work" is that it didn't solve my problem. But it did help me in other cases (namely a Pro8300 that had the ITB constantly crawling to one side - here, and I just noticed I hadn't given feedback yet on that - done!).
                        ' "But the salesman said . . ." The salesman's an asshole!'
                        Mascan42

                        'You will always find some Eskimo ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves.'

                        Ibid

                        I'm just an ex-tech lurking around and spreading disinformation!

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