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  • EDSNOW
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    • Feb 2009
    • 186

    #16
    Thanks

    I will recheck these connectors.
    Ed

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    • Jomama46
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      • Apr 2008
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      #17
      Had one of these last week. A tech replaced the lower PCU for a noise problem and it would jam like crazy.
      As it turns out he used a PCU from a 1060 not a 2051 and altho they look similar, the 2051 uses a pre transfer lamp which the 1060 doesnt have. I replaced the front stay on the PCU which includes the PTL and all was well.
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      • EDSNOW
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        #18
        Thanks yet again

        I am sure this PCU unit is correct as we looked at it to compare with the one being replaced. I was concerned at first how difficult it was to seat the drum in the housing before the upper section of the PCU would close down. Also when the machine was powered up to get to a ready to copy
        state it didn't take that long and also the sounds I expected to hear of motors turning etc. did not seem to occur. There were no error messages and when making a copy you could hear the feed pick up and see the paper exit the registration rollers and then go down under the transfer belt. I really would expect to hear some bad noises if the drum wouldn't
        turn properly.(as in grinding).
        There are so many other things damaged / broken on this machine. Mostly
        user induced. Even if we get the machine to make copies again the toner
        bottle (complete assembly) has to be replaced. The bypass has been broken off.
        I am considering reinstalling the original PCU to see if I can at least get paper to feed out.

        I am holding off doing anything more at this point while I wait to hear back from Ricoh for direction.

        The only good thing about this is that it's a 3rd party service repair.

        I do appreciate the responses though.

        Also this product is very old technology in my opinion.

        Ed

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        • Patish
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Aug 2008
          • 66

          #19
          Is the transfer unit's entrance guide (B065 3955) in their place ? Check the motors by using the "Output check" code. Attempt put a paper before reg. and by rotating the reg.'s knob check the paper path.

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          • EDSNOW
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            #20
            Thanks again

            I will check this entrance guide. Is this the guide that can be moved up or down by a blue lever located under the registration rollers? If so then it is in the up position.The transfer unit can be moved open or closed and it seems to find it's home position in the uupper (closed) position. I am not familiar with the black gate unit that is under the transfer unit unless it's purpose is to protect the transfer assembly when it is in the down position.

            On another note if you saw the condition of this machine and how the end users treat it you would wonder how it worked this long......

            I don't expect to view this machin again until Friday as today is a holliday
            here in Canada and I want to discuss Thursday with Ricoh. I might just suggest they replace it. The difficulty in doing third party service in a remote area as I am sure all of you know is very limited support and with a one of a kind model even more so. I am sure Ricoh is happy to keep sending parts but I have to know when to say enough is enough..

            Thanks for views and opinions..
            Ed

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            • Patish
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              • Aug 2008
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              #21
              This one

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              • EDSNOW
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                • Feb 2009
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                #22
                Thanks Again

                I will be sure to look for this item. I am guessing that as the paer comes out of the registration rollers it should be guided along by this plate to the
                transfer belt? Am I correct in that as the transfer unit is lifted up and locked in position by the handle then this guide should be just about touching the registration roller(lower)?
                It sure would be great if it was as simple as that.

                Ed

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                • drysuitdiver

                  #23
                  I know this may sound simple and stupid but did you order the right pcu assembly ther is one for the older 1060 and 1075 that looks pretty much the same but is different

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                  • EDSNOW
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                    #24
                    Thanks

                    I am sure I ordered the correct item but now that you ask when I get to the office this morning I will check the parts listing and the packing slip to
                    be sure and post what I find.

                    I do appreciate all replies as I am by no means an expert on this product.

                    I am pleased that there is this BBS to help me out.

                    ED

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                    • Patish
                      Technician

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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 66

                      #25
                      I didn't find the PCU unit #. There are two parts: B065 2270 - Upper PCU Ass'y
                      B140 2260 - PCU Lower Ass'y

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                      • EDSNOW
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                        • Feb 2009
                        • 186

                        #26
                        Thanks Re Part Numbers

                        I checked my order and packing slip and these parts B0652270 and B1402260 are the ones I have been using.

                        As with most problems I expect this will turn out to be something easy.

                        Thanks
                        Ed

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                        • Jomama46
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                          #27
                          Make sure that the PTL is part of that Lower assy.
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                          • EDSNOW
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                            #28
                            Thanks

                            I am sure the PTL was part of the PCU unit as the component we were exchanging looks the same.

                            I am still waiting for Ricoh to get back to me before going back onsite.

                            I have to update them to see if they want to proceed further on this call.
                            I have kept all of these email responses on file.

                            Thanks
                            ED

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                            • iMind
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                              • Mar 2008
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                              #29
                              You must be missing something simple as a seal for ex.
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                              • EDSNOW
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                                #30
                                Thanks

                                I agree it may very well be a simple solution.
                                I have contacted Ricoh and am now waiting for a response but I think
                                the outcome will end up replacing the product with something a little newer and a smaller footprint as this customer location is not service friendly for a machine this large.

                                I will advise.

                                Ed

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