Ricoh 1018 grinding noise from drum unit

[copyaction]

I don't usually service the 18 series but it looks like the drum unit is not replaced as a whole assy like in the 22 series.
I'm getting a grinding noise and the drum is very hard to turn by hand, is there something in these that gives out to cause this to bind?

[jonhiker]

yes, you would normally rebuild the pcu. inthis case,the gears in the pcu or dv unit portion have bound up. in the past, i would order a new unit and a bag of developer and replace the whole thing.

[shuttle640]

it seems to depend on how many copies have been through the pcu. you can replace the bottom case where the developer goes and the 2 gears on the mag rl. if alot of copies, then a whole unit may be in order. if you need part numbers, let me know....

[copyaction]

it seems to depend on how many copies have been through the pcu. you can replace the bottom case where the developer goes and the 2 gears on the mag rl. if alot of copies, then a whole unit may be in order. if you need part numbers, let me know....

yes the copier only has 34,000 copies so I think it has never been done.
the part numbers would be great if you have them, thanks

[rangaheshan]

yes the copier only has 34,000 copies so I think it has never been done.
the part numbers would be great if you have them, thanks

hey im always work with 1018,1018d,2015 etc, normaily this problem occurs when developer wheels are gone damag.
replace your develpoer wheel set,

[TonerMunkeh]

Don't bother replacing the gears, it'll just do the same in 10-15k. Part number for complete lower development unit is B039 3170. Don't forget how old this machine is too, it might need a complete PCU which is B039 2214.

[rangaheshan]

Don't bother replacing the gears, it'll just do the same in 10-15k. Part number for complete lower development unit is B039 3170. Don't forget how old this machine is too, it might need a complete PCU which is B039 2214.

yeah i thin u a correct but he say he print only 34,000 copies from developement unit?
thats why i say it

[TonerMunkeh]

I'd agree with you if it was a newer model, but this is the first model of the Kir family, so that makes it at least 8 years old. The plastic will be well ruined in the dev unit by now, especially as it's only done 34k.

[losp_87]

I don't usually service the 18 series but it looks like the drum unit is not replaced as a whole assy like in the 22 series.
I'm getting a grinding noise and the drum is very hard to turn by hand, is there something in these that gives out to cause this to bind?

try to replace new developer wheel set...this may occur when your gear was older in age.

[E Winter]

This happen if dev is spilling through the seals into the dv gears. If the gears aren't worn out you may have a chance cleaning them including the drive area - this may last some time if the print volume is very low especially if there's a chance that the customer is aiming a new machine.

[aabarnes1]

Why bother fucking around with parts for the pcu unit, just replace it and cover ALL eventuallities, as Toner monkey said this is a very old box and the plastic will have perished considerably. You will only end up going back to the machine again and again.

[E Winter]

Why bother fucking around with parts

Because you are a tech? I think there are always some things to consider before it comes to pricey actions on older machines, especially if the machine is running with a service contract wich may end soonish or the customer shows interestet in buying a new machine.

In this case the machine did 34k in ~8 years - a really low volume. That's why I would try to offer the customer (or our service contract) a small repair wich may give a grace period of a year or two until it's time to buy something new anyway. I wouldn't count that the machine would run another 8 years with the pricey repair (new pcu) and that's a mess if you spend quite some bucks into a repair and next year the polygon motor and/or fuser parts dies or whatever may be "next".

[copyaction]

Why bother fucking around with parts for the pcu unit, just replace it and cover ALL eventuallities, as Toner monkey said this is a very old box and the plastic will have perished considerably. You will only end up going back to the machine again and again.

I know, but like you said "this is a very old box" and at $475 my cost for the pcu, I don't know that the customer will want to put around $900 into something this old.

[aabarnes1]

I know, but like you said "this is a very old box" and at $475 my cost for the pcu, I don't know that the customer will want to put around $900 into something this old.

Well that's a perfect opportunity to sell a new machine to them, you have the ammunition of the cost of repair against the current value and on-going liability of the machine. Of course if it comes to it put the necessary parts into it but if you can sell them a new machine or pcu surely that's better for you!.

[aabarnes1]

Because you are a tech? I think there are always some things to consider before it comes to pricey actions on older machines, especially if the machine is running with a service contract wich may end soonish or the customer shows interestet in buying a new machine.

In this case the machine did 34k in ~8 years - a really low volume. That's why I would try to offer the customer (or our service contract) a small repair wich may give a grace period of a year or two until it's time to buy something new anyway. I wouldn't count that the machine would run another 8 years with the pricey repair (new pcu) and that's a mess if you spend quite some bucks into a repair and next year the polygon motor and/or fuser parts dies or whatever may be "next".

Yes because I'm a tech is the reason I gave the answer, I have been a tech for 22 years with coiers printers and pc's and in my experience a machine that is 8 years old is trouble if you start fannying around with pcu/dev parts, there is a reason they supply pcu as a unit. However I also understand that thera are citcumstances when you must do a repair on old kit, this is usually good leverage for a sales lead. It is important to look at the big picture as well as what's in front of you. I know this from many fuck up's in the past!