Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

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  • P-Man
    Technician
    • Oct 2011
    • 28

    #16
    Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

    so a new update. the tech came in and took abart the fuser to replace the roller and again the blade has pretty much disintigrated, shattered, broken apart, what ever you would like to call it. I looked inside while it was open and the blade is just in pieces. The pawls looked to have been adjusted properly. Now we are all stumped as to why this has happened again for the second time in less than 10 days. Has anyone seen this or dealt with this problem before?

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    • P-Man
      Technician
      • Oct 2011
      • 28

      #17
      Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

      Originally posted by STIG5897







      BLADE YOUR ON THE RIGHT TRACK, IF THE PRINTS ARE COMING OUT GRAINEY, ITS MOST LIKELY THAT THE PAPER TYPE SELECTED IN THE PAPER LIBRARY ISNT SET CORRECTLY, SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO ACCESS THE CUSTOM PAPER CATALOGUE/ADVANCED SETTING OF THE PAPER TYPE( U NEED TO LOGIN FIRST TO SEE THIS.....admin no passwrd) and then play with fuser temps,paper transfer currents etc.... till you find the right setting that works for that type of paper.
      i have had to do this for a number of customers, its a bit of mucking around but if you get it right your laughing..............HOPE THIS HELPS,.......GOODLUCK......
      I wish that was the problem, it was running fine prior to this, 100# coated text is pretty much the main stock we run on this machine and the settings are alwasy the same Thick 1 Coated 3 as per the ricoh simplified media guide. We have tried that in the past and have also tried using different settings and nothing. I just posted before I saw these replies and it seemd that our blade keeps shattering or disintigrating for lack of a better term. Again thanks for the help guys, I've been learning alot here on the problems, especially becasue out on the internet there doesnt seem to be all that much info on the problems we've been having.

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      • P-Man
        Technician
        • Oct 2011
        • 28

        #18
        Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

        Originally posted by ss12
        part number for the new fuser with a hardened hot roller are D0164301 NA or D0164302 EU
        Thank you thank you thank you

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        • Hemlock
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Dec 2009
          • 432

          #19
          Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

          Given how often the fuser parts 'disintegrate', I'd bet a dollar the oil isn't getting pumped up to the distribution area. Either a bad pump, blocked tube or faulty instruction to turn on or off. Parts right out of the box have just enough oil in them to get the tech out the door and make a few stacks of paper but, when used for longer, it dries out and eats itself up.

          Just a thought.
          “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)

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          • P-Man
            Technician
            • Oct 2011
            • 28

            #20
            Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

            Originally posted by Hemlock
            Given how often the fuser parts 'disintegrate', I'd bet a dollar the oil isn't getting pumped up to the distribution area. Either a bad pump, blocked tube or faulty instruction to turn on or off. Parts right out of the box have just enough oil in them to get the tech out the door and make a few stacks of paper but, when used for longer, it dries out and eats itself up.

            Just a thought.
            Will speak to him right now about that, never even crossed my mind about that

            *Update*
            Tech says theres no way thats the problem

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            • wfinn
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Mar 2011
              • 70

              #21
              Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

              That's why I suggested the oil and filter change. dumping out the tank because that stuff gets thicker and harder to pump. Pumps are easy to change when you learn how to do them. The fuser tray comes out and there is a plate under it. The plate comes off and then you have access to the tank, pumps and everything. I suggested manually adding oil to the jobs because it sounds like everything is getting too dry. If manually adding oil to the fuser every now and then allows you to run the stock then that is a sure fire way to know that your not getting enough oil into the fuser. Did they change the oil and filter on that?

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              • P-Man
                Technician
                • Oct 2011
                • 28

                #22
                Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

                as far as I know when two techs came in and ripped into the machine that was supposed to be done, all that we can verify that has been done was a filter change. As of right now the engineer and a a whole group of people from Ricoh will be heading out to us to take a look at this machine and try to figure out what is going on.

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                • Hemlock
                  Trusted Tech

                  250+ Posts
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 432

                  #23
                  Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

                  Originally posted by P-Man

                  *Update*
                  Tech says theres no way thats the problem
                  When they say that, without checking it out or digging further, they're usually worthless techs.
                  “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” (Isaac Asimov)

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                  • P-Man
                    Technician
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 28

                    #24
                    Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

                    Originally posted by Hemlock
                    When they say that, without checking it out or digging further, they're usually worthless techs.
                    Agreed, we've spoken with his boss and supposidly the engineers and a handfull of others from ricoh will be coming out

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                    • STIG5897
                      Technician
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 13

                      #25
                      Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

                      This is a very unusual problem hey, id like to find out what they end up finding out, the only thing that dosnt make sence is 2 different fusers would not do the exact same fault, if a
                      another fuser hasnt been fitted id be trying that too, that way you know its a brand spanking new fuser...........

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                      • P-Man
                        Technician
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 28

                        #26
                        Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

                        Originally posted by STIG5897
                        This is a very unusual problem hey, id like to find out what they end up finding out, the only thing that dosnt make sence is 2 different fusers would not do the exact same fault, if a
                        another fuser hasnt been fitted id be trying that too, that way you know its a brand spanking new fuser...........
                        Right now we are using one fuser for coated stock and another fuser for non coated stock. The one for the coated stock is giving us alot of problems and is the one that had the blade disitigrate twice now. The one for noncoated stock is down right now also and needs to be rebuilt. We have talked about getting the new upgraded fuser, but we are still waiting to here back from Ricoh, their service out here leaves alot to be desired. The crazy thing is, the machine isnt even a year old and if I showed you the service history it would blow your mind. I will keep this thread updated as more information comes in, especially once the engineers come out.

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                        • P-Man
                          Technician
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 28

                          #27
                          Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

                          After the noncoated fuser was rebuilt it began to give us problems also, we were getting multicolored smudges on the edge of the paper and spots on certain areas on the page. The roller was replaced again and the problem persisted. The paper being used was 32# 11x17, nothing special, after stumping everyone the transfer belt is being checked and it looked like there were dimples on it. Hopefully once this is replaced it will solve some of our quality issues that we have been having. We also have a KM bizhub press c8000 which puts out amazing quality, and it is what we and our clients have come to expect.

                          More updates to come...

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                          • Andrew.Burness

                            #28
                            Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

                            Hi Here are the part numbers for the new Fuser unit for the Pro C900
                            North America Part number D0164301
                            Europe Part number D0164302
                            Cant help with costing, you will need to contact your service center for that.

                            There are a lot of modified parts in the new fuser but you could upgrade an old fuser to a new one.

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                            • P-Man
                              Technician
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 28

                              #29
                              Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

                              UPDATE

                              The tech on friday and replaced the transfer belt, it was dimpled and had some lines on it. I havent had a chance to really run the machine yet as I was on press on friday for a big order. I'm hopefing to run some coated stock through today to see if the blade shatters again and I should be running some noncoated stock today for some letters so we'll see how the rebuilt rebuilt noncoated fuser runs.

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                              • P-Man
                                Technician
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 28

                                #30
                                Re: Problems with Ricoh Pro C900s

                                Originally posted by Andrew.Burness
                                Hi Here are the part numbers for the new Fuser unit for the Pro C900
                                North America Part number D0164301
                                Europe Part number D0164302
                                Cant help with costing, you will need to contact your service center for that.

                                There are a lot of modified parts in the new fuser but you could upgrade an old fuser to a new one.
                                Thank you for the info, greatly appreciated

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