Generic HDD on Ricohs?

[Old Crow]

It's been a while since I had to replace a hard drive on a Ricoh. Last time was a Ricoh 2035 and it worked fine. Have a MP6001 and 3350 that have to go back to lease company and customer wants to keep the HDD's. If I replace with generics will I lose features like duplex? Don't really want to spend money on proprietary HDD's. Thanks.

[sandmanmac]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

No problem, any SATA HDD's will do. Just make sure to use at least the minimum size for each model, but you can use larger ones. I believe it's 80Gb (2.5") for MP33350, and 160Gb (3.5") for MP6001

[KenB]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

Ditto on the generics, and keeping the size at the original or higher.

Word of caution, though. It's getting harder and harder to find IDE drives anymore. Once you find a good source, keep it in your back pocket for when you need it again.

Personally, I've been able to find 40 and 80 GB drives refurbed, all at a fraction of the cost they would be new.

[sandmanmac]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

Word of caution, though. It's getting harder and harder to find IDE drives anymore. Once you find a good source, keep it in your back pocket for when you need it again.

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While I agree with your IDE statement completely..I'm pretty sure both of these units use the newer SATA drives (?)

[KenB]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

While I agree with your IDE statement completely..I'm pretty sure both of these units use the newer SATA drives (?)

Sorry, I believe you are correct.

I should have made that a separate statement - didn't mean to add any confusion. But then again, it's my job to do so.

[Old Crow]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

Thanks much for the replies and information. I probably would have ordered one of the old style hard drives. I will fish around for a SATA drive. Thanks again! Old Crow

[tcs04]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

Thanks much for the replies and information. I probably would have ordered one of the old style hard drives. I will fish around for a SATA drive. Thanks again! Old Crow

The same applies for all older machines as well, just make sure if fitting an IDE drive that the jumpers are set to "master" on the drive. No formatting usually required on either type.

[teebee1234]

Also, I have yet to come across a corrupted HDD that could not be saved by using a USB adapter and formatting it on my laptop. The exception would be the dual/RAID configured ones and those with a hard failure. The lesson being that in the majority of cases you shouldn't have to replace it, just keep a spare of each type to swap out and repair the failed ones later.

[femaster]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

Also, I have yet to come across a corrupted HDD that could not be saved by using a USB adapter and formatting it on my laptop. The exception would be the dual/RAID configured ones and those with a hard failure. The lesson being that in the majority of cases you shouldn't have to replace it, just keep a spare of each type to swap out and repair the failed ones later.

Yup, this is exactly what we do. A lost of our work is inside secure facilities, and we can't take a laptop in with us, so we carry spares with us. Just as you stated, we swap the drives out, then back at the office run the removed unit through a FULL format with a USB connection device.

The reason we use a full format is that if there are problems with the drive, generally a full format will fail, where-as a quick format will usually pass, unless there is something really wrong with the drive. It's an easy way to detect if a drive is marginal, and might cause a repeat problem in another machine.

[ZOOTECH]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

Yup, this is exactly what we do. A lost of our work is inside secure facilities, and we can't take a laptop in with us, so we carry spares with us. Just as you stated, we swap the drives out, then back at the office run the removed unit through a FULL format with a USB connection device.

Just how secure a facility is that that will allow you to remove a HDD (even though we know it's not really "hackable")?

[femaster]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

Just how secure a facility is that that will allow you to remove a HDD (even though we know it's not really "hackable")?

Well, Maximum Security prisons for one. Not exactly sure why they let us take them, perhaps the 'standard' employees just don't know any better? Or it could just be the fact that they use the Data Overwrite Security on all their machines, and are not worried about the data leaking because of this. Not really sure...

Seems weird to me as well. I know machines we've removed from banks or some of the other state agencies are quite tight about getting their HDDs when a machine is removed or if the HDD fails; even if they are using the Data Overwrite and/or HDD Encryption. In these cases though, it's not that big of a deal, as they can be formatted onsite and generally brought back to life. They aren't exactly keen on us slaving the HDDs up to our laptops, but we don't give them much choice. We don't replace drives unless we know for sure they are dead. No point in giving out a free HDD when you don't need to.

[Old Crow]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

would these be the same type of HDD that goes in laptops?

[sandmanmac]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

would these be the same type of HDD that goes in laptops?

Yes. Basically a 2.5" drive is Laptop HDD (fits MP3350, etc.) and 3.5 " HDD is PC size and is used in the larger copiers

[Old Crow]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

thanks again!

[Ralph S]

Re: Generic HDD on Ricohs?

It is true that you can replace a RIcoh MFD HDD with any brand, but do be careful on the size of the replaced HDD. Especially on IDE type connctions, as Ricoh engineering is power stingy, and putting in a faster and/or larger HDD could draw too much power and take out your engine or controller board at a chip level.
I've had it happen!