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    Technician
    • Mar 2013
    • 13

    #91
    Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

    The sleeve has 57K Color and 105K B&W i have seen in service manual the fusing sleeve should replace in 300K. And what i seen the sleeve looks ok.

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      Technician
      • Mar 2013
      • 13

      #92
      Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

      Hello, the counters of the sleeve are 57K Colour and 105K B&W i have seen in service manual the sleeve should replaced in 300K. and when i have opened the sleeve looks good.

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        Technician
        • Mar 2013
        • 13

        #93
        Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

        Hello to everyone i have tested option with push switch has worked perfectly as described. thanks

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        • Mark Bbb
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Jun 2012
          • 1662

          #94
          Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

          Originally posted by copier tech
          Anyone found a solution to getting more life out of theese fuser sleeves? Just had one rip on me, I only replaced it 90k ago!? Customer is only printing on plain paper.
          Tried leaving out the stripper plate but that can cause jams on full colour.
          03 fusers dont seem to have this issue, seems to me the 02 sleeve is simply poor quality.
          Copier tech: i have noticed that when customer uses thick paper without adjusting the thickness on the machine, the sleeve will worn more quickely.

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          • copier tech
            Field Supervisor

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            • Jan 2014
            • 8144

            #95
            Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

            Originally posted by Mark Bbb
            Copier tech: i have noticed that when customer uses thick paper without adjusting the thickness on the machine, the sleeve will worn more quickely.
            I've not had a single SC554 since i've been fitting the latest modified sleeves.
            Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

            For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

            www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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            • Mark Bbb
              Service Manager

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              • Jun 2012
              • 1662

              #96
              Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

              Originally posted by copier tech
              I've not had a single SC554 since i've been fitting the latest modified sleeves.
              copier tech: do you replace the sleeve only? I have tried it, but failed!

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              • copier tech
                Field Supervisor

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                • Jan 2014
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                #97
                Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                copier tech: do you replace the sleeve only? I have tried it, but failed!
                No the sleeve unit as in the parts manual
                Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                • Mark Bbb
                  Service Manager

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                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1662

                  #98
                  Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                  Originally posted by copier tech
                  No the sleeve unit as in the parts manual
                  ????
                  So you replace the F.U. as an ass'y?

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                  • Stormhammer
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 150

                    #99
                    Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                    After digging some and coupling that with personal experience it seems to me that good ol Ricky Ricoh decided to use thinner belts in these units to reduce the time it takes for the machine to warm up and recover. I've had a rash of C5503's decide to break all the teeth off the pressure gears lately too. That's excluding the two units I just refitted with new sleeevs under 60k total count.

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                    • zed255
                      How'd ya manage that?

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1024

                      #100
                      Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                      Originally posted by Mark Bbb
                      ????
                      So you replace the F.U. as an ass'y?
                      The sleeve unit is a part of the fuser unit. Ricoh does not sell parts of the sleve unit, just the sub-assembly because servicing it in the field would be too difficult and failure prone. I have taken them apart before and the sleeve unit is definitely not intended to be rebuilt.

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                      • copier tech
                        Field Supervisor

                        5,000+ Posts
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 8144

                        #101
                        Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                        Originally posted by Stormhammer
                        After digging some and coupling that with personal experience it seems to me that good ol Ricky Ricoh decided to use thinner belts in these units to reduce the time it takes for the machine to warm up and recover. I've had a rash of C5503's decide to break all the teeth off the pressure gears lately too. That's excluding the two units I just refitted with new sleeevs under 60k total count.
                        The gears have been modified, they're made from a tougher plastic so dont break.
                        Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                        For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                        www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                        • Stormhammer
                          Trusted Tech

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                          • Mar 2016
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                          #102
                          Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                          Originally posted by copier tech
                          The gears have been modified, they're made from a tougher plastic so dont break.
                          The tricky part is tracking down the machines that have factory originals. Sometimes you can only wait until they break to know. I have a running list of machines that have the modified gears and fusing sleeve units now. However, I keep having to cover for other techs. They keep wondering why I'm taking their machines apart.

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                          • ABS tect
                            Senior Tech

                            500+ Posts
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 511

                            #103
                            Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                            Originally posted by slimslob
                            The original solution according to Ricoh is to replace the fusing unit with a new service replacement unit and then run SP 5810. The current procedure is to repair what ever the actual problem is and while you have the fusing unit apart, replace the reset fuse and then run SP 5810. The reset fuse comes with packed with all new fusing sleeves or can be ordered separately or sourced locally.
                            Sorry for reopening an old thread but just wanted to be positive of the procedure before i do it so i don't fuses for no reason. I have an SC 554 code on a 4502 and I just got fuses (M026-4371) in that i am going to put on a working fuser from another MP C4502. What is the exact step by step?? I read the service bulletin no.D143 and these are my thoughts so correct me if i'm wrong.

                            Leave the machine on with the SC554 code on the display
                            Put in the fuser unit with the new fuse in it
                            Execute SP 5810-02 which will blow the fuse but think that it has a new one in there
                            turn the machine on/off

                            Is that it?? is there a need to execute sp 5810-01?? or reset the fuser PM counter?

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                            • copier tech
                              Field Supervisor

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                              • Jan 2014
                              • 8144

                              #104
                              Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                              Yes ABS you are right, fit the fuse to a known good fuser unit, fit the unit, power on the machine & if SC544 is shown execute SP5810-02 I usually also do SP5810-01 no harm in doing both.
                              Dont reset the fuser PM counter unless you fit a new fuser or sleeve.
                              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                              For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                              www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                              • ABS tect
                                Senior Tech

                                500+ Posts
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 511

                                #105
                                Re: MPC-3502 sc554-00(holy sh..!)

                                Originally posted by copier tech
                                Yes ABS you are right, fit the fuse to a known good fuser unit, fit the unit, power on the machine & if SC544 is shown execute SP5810-02 I usually also do SP5810-01 no harm in doing both.
                                Dont reset the fuser PM counter unless you fit a new fuser or sleeve.

                                Thank you! Got it working! The machine was off with no fuser in it....so i powered it on with no fuser in it...waited till it was "ready" with the sc 554 code...put the old fuser with new fuse in...executed 5810-02 only and powered off and on.

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