[Jamming] jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

[margic brian]

hello folks,
am going through a nightmare,am working on an mp 2000 that has made only 21000 copies i just dont understand why it jams at 25 copies,

i have tried cleaning all the rollers in the ADF everything seems perfect. i sprayed the clutches with dw40 but still same problem keeps persisting i just dont know what to do next
i'd be gratefull with any help that can be provided

[banginbishop]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

whats the smc telling you? and never spray wd40 in a clutch!

[Eric1968]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

A jam code is the first thing to look at. You can also test all ADF-sensors if they are working ok. If you have a clutch that's not working you can take it apart and clean the two metal plates. Sometimes there's a lot of dirt and rust in it. Make sure those plates are DRY. WD-40 lubricates them and that will cause the two plates to slip, causing more jams.

[Debs1964]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

I always use alcohol to clean clutch plates, as you've already been told, never, ever use WD-40 to clean a clutch, it will cause you no end of problems

[pspahr]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

WD-40 is great for lots of things, including getting lipstick out of your clothes if your wife or daughter accidentally washes a lipstick tube in the wash.......Also great at keeping birds and bugs away. But I'd never use it in a clutch. The clutches in that particular unit come apart by pulling of the pressed on ring on one side. Scrub the plates with scotch brite and reassemble so that when pressed back on, the ring is fairly flush with the shaft to which is on. Also, the clutch should be able to rotate freely but not have much play between plates.

Ooooooor, you could just replace the clutch. Usually that is the cause with those ADF from what I've seen.

[Cipher]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

and never spray wd40 in a clutch!

Once was sent to call for jamming where a new tech that previous attended decided to 3in1 oil EVERYTHING!

His excuse when I tracked his ass down... the customer was complaining about a squeak!

I calmly (as I could) explained to the dumb ass you don't go oiling no fregin feed or reg clutch for any reason!.

Needless to say it was a complete nightmare to put right.

[Herostrat]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

As we all pointed it out don't lubricate clutches,only some bearings...and be carefull with those allso,I slit some paper arpound it before I spray them.
Now to the problem at hand...it is allso pointed out that we need some more info on jaming,take smc report,does it lag or fails to activate sensor,or just tell us where exactly does paper jam in DF.
Machine that did so few pappers culdn't get dust on sensors but it wuldn't hurt you to clean them,allso make shure that you clean the oposite side of sensor...sensors that don't use levers,ones facing paper as it slides across them.
Sometimes pieces of paper or just paper dust piles up on the oposite side of sensor and makes it register paper.
Does it jam after 25 papers on 2 sided mode?
Look at the FD cower,does it close propper,is anything bent,does DF sit centered on exposure glass,inspect for paperclips.

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[slimslob]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

In a high dust area the sensors can get dirty in a hurry. This especially true of reflective sensors that use black felt reference. I had a MP C4000 at a field office with dirt and gravel parking. They had to blow the dust off the black references every week. They also had to clean the pickup roller and feed belt.

[sandmanmac]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

Maybe your entire problem is due to all of the goddamn WD40 in your mag clutches. I'd start by cleaning all of them, and then get back to us. UNBELIEVABLE!

[banginbishop]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

Maybe your entire problem is due to all of the goddamn WD40 in your mag clutches. I'd start by cleaning all of them, and then get back to us. UNBELIEVABLE!

We all make mistakes its if we learn from them that matters😀
he's made a mistake like ALL of us have so give em some slack here.

[sandmanmac]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

We all make mistakes its if we learn from them that matters
he's made a mistake like ALL of us have so give em some slack here.

That's for sure Bishop! I agree.
I know I was blunt, but seriously, anyone that's been doing this for more than 15 minutes should know how wrong lubing a mag clutch is, and I was actually trying to help by suggesting that his 'slippery' clutches could be the problem. If they're not today, they will be soon.

I actually have old "Margic" blocked due to his incompetence, but I couldn't help myself from "peeking" after seeing his name. I'll do my best to bite my tongue on his issues from now on...but it's so hard to

[banginbishop]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

Look on the bright side it's not aab1😡 still question why you can't put wd40 on a clutch and then complain the can of oil doesn't last - f*****g dumb wit. Did you know he invented the wheel out of his ink jet printer 😒 sorry that's me being sarcastic aaarrrgggghhhhh

[sandmanmac]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

Look on the bright side it's not aab1 still question why you can't put wd40 on a clutch and then complain the can of oil doesn't last - f*****g dumb wit. Did you know he invented the wheel out of his ink jet printer  sorry that's me being sarcastic aaarrrgggghhhhh

Ha-Ha...for sure! aab1 is one of a kind indeed!

[Herostrat]

Re: jamming in ADF after coping 25 copies

We "atacked" him with DON'T LUBRICATE posts and I'm afraid we scared him off.
We made our point,more posts about lubricating is wrong isn't helping him,we are diverting from the topic,now let's focus on jaming after 25 papers,cause I'm kinda curious to be honest.