ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

[cristian]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

This is not a Genuine Ricoh supplier. According the the Ricoh parts manual, the part numbers are not the same, the polygom mirror motor and the laser diode unit are different part numbers.

You are right. I have search a laser for 3035 but no luck till today.

[slimslob]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

[U]

From the down mentioned link i see that aficio 3035 and MP4500 use the same laser unit. Please check.
B2981870 Imaging Unit - B2131870 Genuine RICOH Part
Never mentioned that i will use another part from one to another , but only the laser unit.

This is not a Genuine Ricoh supplier. According the the Ricoh parts manual, the part numbers are not the same, the polygom mirror motor and the laser diode unit are different part numbers.

[cristian]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

The Aficio 3035 and the MP 4500 do not use the same laser unit.

They also do not use the same toner. If you have been using 4500 toner in the 3035, that could be your problem. When you use the wrong toner, it will work fine for 10k to 50k and then the image quality will go south rapidly.

From the down mentioned link i see that aficio 3035 and MP4500 use the same laser unit. Please check.
B2981870 Imaging Unit - B2131870 Genuine RICOH Part
Never mentioned that i will use another part from one to another , but only the laser unit.

[cristian]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

When you swap developer and drum units you still need to do an initialisation. The steps for swapping are in the manual. Also, there was only one type of toner for this model. The replacement MP 3500/4500 and 4000/5000 had two different types of toner.

I know. I will replace only the laser unit.

[slimslob]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

Toner Katun, but untill now, with 4 machines in 3 years no problem...
Charged voltage and dev. bias set automatically , or after initialisation, to some corect values.
Grounding points ok.Already replaced the belt assembl. Same quality.
You are right about the ID sensor. It s working, means that after initialisation, the values of all Vsg, etc, are easy changed, but ... the value of the last two (sorry i have not the machine nearby) are far from recomended.For the moment , the problem is indirectly solved because the owner has cleaned the laser(was badly cover with toner) and the copier was entered in C322, and after that in C323. So for the moment if he can not put back the laser alignment untill i return, probably we need to change the laser unit with one from an MP 4500and we will see after that.Supose more than 60% this is a charging or ID problem. The developer has 80k...but what is wrong is that thin uniform pelicule of toner on the belt, no metter what belt assembly, no metter what drum assembly and no metter what developing unit.
I will be gone for a couple of days, but i will come back with news.

The Aficio 3035 and the MP 4500 do not use the same laser unit. They also do not use the same toner. If you have been using 4500 toner in the 3035, that could be your problem. When you use the wrong toner, it will work fine for 10k to 50k and then the image quality will go south rapidly.

[rthonpm]

If you're using after market toner, you're going to be chasing your tail on this kind of problem. Even if you've never had issues before doesn't mean they haven't started now. Dump the developer, clean out the entire PCU and try OEM toner. The toner build up on the transfer seems like a big sign of some kind of issue with your toner.

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[Tonerbomb]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

Toner Katun, but untill now, with 4 machines in 3 years no problem...
Charged voltage and dev. bias set automatically , or after initialisation, to some corect values.
Grounding points ok.Already replaced the belt assembl. Same quality.
You are right about the ID sensor. It s working, means that after initialisation, the values of all Vsg, etc, are easy changed, but ... the value of the last two (sorry i have not the machine nearby) are far from recomended.For the moment , the problem is indirectly solved because the owner has cleaned the laser(was badly cover with toner) and the copier was entered in C322, and after that in C323. So for the moment if he can not put back the laser alignment untill i return, probably we need to change the laser unit with one from an MP 4500and we will see after that.Supose more than 60% this is a charging or ID problem. The developer has 80k...but what is wrong is that thin uniform pelicule of toner on the belt, no metter what belt assembly, no metter what drum assembly and no metter what developing unit.
I will be gone for a couple of days, but i will come back with news.

The only aftermarket thing I recommend for this machine is a drum ground strap from NA Trading !!!

[cristian]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

Alright, let's look at other things then.
What are the charge voltage and developer bias set to? If I remember correctly, the charge voltage is automatically adjusted by the ID sensor reading the patch, so you might want to see what the patch looks like, and see what the patch settings are in the charge voltage and developer bias settings as well. You might want to check the settings for the ID sensor, too.
What type of toner are you using? There were two types of toner used by the 35/45 cpm chassis during the time it was actively being manufactured. They are incompatible. One uses a styrene base, the other polyester (I'm pretty sure the polyester based toner is what this machine uses). And if you are not using OEM toner and drums, you might just have got some from a bad batch.
Are the grounding points between the tank and drum unit to the machine in good shape? I had always been under the impression that those faults would lead to light copies, but I recently learned they can also cause something like this.
As far as the toner on the belt goes, the belt cleaning blade is worn out and needs to be replaced. It might not hurt to replace the belt as well. Make sure to thoroughly clean the toner and paper dust from the brush on the belt unit frame when you have it apart.
Hope that helps.

Toner Katun, but untill now, with 4 machines in 3 years no problem...
Charged voltage and dev. bias set automatically , or after initialisation, to some corect values.
Grounding points ok.Already replaced the belt assembl. Same quality.
You are right about the ID sensor. It s working, means that after initialisation, the values of all Vsg, etc, are easy changed, but ... the value of the last two (sorry i have not the machine nearby) are far from recomended.For the moment , the problem is indirectly solved because the owner has cleaned the laser(was badly cover with toner) and the copier was entered in C322, and after that in C323. So for the moment if he can not put back the laser alignment untill i return, probably we need to change the laser unit with one from an MP 4500and we will see after that.Supose more than 60% this is a charging or ID problem. The developer has 80k...but what is wrong is that thin uniform pelicule of toner on the belt, no metter what belt assembly, no metter what drum assembly and no metter what developing unit.
I will be gone for a couple of days, but i will come back with news.

[Iowatech]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

When you swap developer and drum units you still need to do an initialisation. The steps for swapping are in the manual. Also, there was only one type of toner for this model. The replacement MP 3500/4500 and 4000/5000 had two different types of toner.

Aw crap, I was mistaken about the toner, sorry about that.

[rthonpm]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

When you swap developer and drum units you still need to do an initialisation. The steps for swapping are in the manual. Also, there was only one type of toner for this model. The replacement MP 3500/4500 and 4000/5000 had two different types of toner.

[Iowatech]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

Good. ... but i have put on the machine a dev. tank (from another machine- who works perfect) the quality remain bad. Also i have put the whole drum assembly (from the same good machine) and the same result...

Alright, let's look at other things then.
What are the charge voltage and developer bias set to? If I remember correctly, the charge voltage is automatically adjusted by the ID sensor reading the patch, so you might want to see what the patch looks like, and see what the patch settings are in the charge voltage and developer bias settings as well. You might want to check the settings for the ID sensor, too.
What type of toner are you using? There were two types of toner used by the 35/45 cpm chassis during the time it was actively being manufactured. They are incompatible. One uses a styrene base, the other polyester (I'm pretty sure the polyester based toner is what this machine uses). And if you are not using OEM toner and drums, you might just have got some from a bad batch.
Are the grounding points between the tank and drum unit to the machine in good shape? I had always been under the impression that those faults would lead to light copies, but I recently learned they can also cause something like this.
As far as the toner on the belt goes, the belt cleaning blade is worn out and needs to be replaced. It might not hurt to replace the belt as well. Make sure to thoroughly clean the toner and paper dust from the brush on the belt unit frame when you have it apart.
Hope that helps.

[cristian]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

From looking at your image of the copy, I am assuming that the paper was fed LEF and that the background areas are on both edges. Something is causing either charge or uneven development. Check the grounding to the drum shaft and development doctor blade. You might have a slight warping of the frame.

Good. ... but i have put on the machine a dev. tank (from another machine- who works perfect) the quality remain bad. Also i have put the whole drum assembly (from the same good machine) and the same result...

[L-IQ-uid toner]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

Did you look at transfer unit? Your cleaning blade could be bent or/and whole unit is dirty like hell.

[slimslob]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

I will add a scan of a print page.
I have replace the whole developing section (both the developer tank and the drum )and also the belt section with another ones from a good machine.The quality is the same-bad. So i think the problem is somewhere else...ID sensor - even if i have cleaned it. The significant observation is that> on the belt, after the copy, there[ATTACH=CONFIG]26112[/ATTACH] is an uniform pelicule of toner- also on the changed belt.Also, the quality is worst on the backside of the paper. On the first side, the quality is much better, almost good.

From looking at your image of the copy, I am assuming that the paper was fed LEF and that the background areas are on both edges. Something is causing either charge or uneven development. Check the grounding to the drum shaft and development doctor blade. You might have a slight warping of the frame.

[NeoMatrix]

Re: ricoh aficio 3035 grey page

I agree with everyone else posts.
Otherwise see if the Bearings are shot in the dev tank causing metal shards. This may cause the dev bias to ground on the doc blade ? I have seen this on some of the old machines.