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  • sandmanmac
    Field Supervisor

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    • Feb 2009
    • 3981

    #16
    Re: Printing one-half page vertically with ADF.

    Originally posted by lfh003
    Yes, all troubleshooting questions are hypothetical until they are successfully fixed (what if this, what if that). I was interviewed by an international giant for an analyst position and this was the one question I could not answer.
    Take your hypothetical world somewhere else. We're not the ones being interviewed!
    Look around, it should be pretty clear that we deal with REAL field Service problems that are happening RIGHT NOW!
    You posted your issue as if that was the case with you, and it took until your 3rd post in this thread to tell us what should have been made clear from the outset!

    If you want to talk about "what if's", and stuff. No problem.....just be clear about it!

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    • Iowatech
      Not a service manager

      2,500+ Posts
      • Dec 2009
      • 3930

      #17
      Re: Printing one-half page vertically with ADF.

      Originally posted by lfh003
      Thank you, Iowatech, for responding.
      This printing problem was not model specific...it was a question asked of me during a job interview two days ago. What would cause such a feed/print issue: document printing correctly to paper when manually placed on the platen, but not when using ADF. The auto feed result was that one-half (vertically--top to bottom) printed in the correct location, another sheet would feed and the print would be correctly placed on the other side (vertically) of the second sheet.
      I see. Well, then depending on the equipment you are going to work on, the correct answer would be that probably nothing could cause that problem, and here's why:
      In most machines, the document's travels through the feeder is timed pretty strictly, so if there was a mechanical or electronic problem in the feeder that could cause this there would be either a jam indication or an error code before it could actually happen.
      If there was an image processing or print engine problem that could cause this, you would see it on the copies made from the platen glass, too.
      I suppose this could happen if the machine had gotten struck by lightning and was still smoldering (voltage surges can cause some unexpected and weird problems), but other than that the scenario sounds pretty improbable to me.
      Last edited by Iowatech; 09-01-2014, 12:51 AM. Reason: Is, not are. D'oh.

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      • Tonerbomb
        AutoMajical Resolutionist

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        • Feb 2005
        • 2589

        #18
        Re: Printing one-half page vertically with ADF.

        this appears to be another WTF thread............................................ .............
        Mystic Crystal Revelations

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        • sorin1965
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 5

          #19
          Re: Printing one-half page vertically with ADF.

          This situation is weird indeed.
          Blackcat is right, you should describe the issue more accurate.
          In such odd situation I suggest to go to the user manual. Some job settings made by the user might determine the machine to apparently behave strange.
          Always ask the user how he got into the situation.

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          • copyaction
            Senior Tech

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            • Oct 2007
            • 991

            #20
            Re: Printing one-half page vertically with ADF.

            Originally posted by lfh003
            This printing problem was not model specific....
            You lost me at not model specific, since the same symptom could have several different causes on several different models even from the same manufacturer.

            What if it was a single sheet ADF as opposed to a duplexing or even a single pass ADF?

            It would appear that the FIRST thing the OP has to learn is that you must first know what type of problem you are having BEFORE you can begin to fix it.

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            • lfh003

              #21
              Re: Printing one-half page vertically with ADF.

              Some have come to help; some have come to complain.
              I worked for 3M from 1980-86 installing, repairing copiers, fax machines, and book detection systems. I did very well and was paid above average for those days...plus had a company F-150 van.
              One of my duties was to treat every user question with diplomacy and tact. It is the client's satisfaction that made my pay. If the question was weird or WTF, I took it seriously. They were, also, trying to learn their machine and how to use it. So, now, I have arrived at Copynet. I am seeking answers from professional technicians...what have I received?
              Some have come to help; some have come to complain.

              The mature individual will recognize an opportunity to help the less informed. The immature will be too bothered.
              Some have come to help; some have come to complain.

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

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                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 23008

                #22
                Re: Printing one-half page vertically with ADF.

                Maybe you'll recall back to 1986 ...

                Your customer says he's getting half copies, part on one sheet, part on another. You ask some basic questions:
                What model do you have?
                Which way were you feeding the paper?
                Which way were you feeding the originals?
                Which features were you using?
                Do you have a sample?

                The answers you get are:
                I don't know.
                I don't know.
                I don't know.
                I don't know.
                No.

                Frustrating. Isn't it? Either your enduser is some kind of idiot, or he is withholding information from you.

                Sounds familiar ...

                I have a slightly higher standard for copier technicians. The absolute least they can do is figure out what model they're working on.
                Just my perspective. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • copyaction
                  Senior Tech

                  Site Contributor
                  500+ Posts
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 991

                  #23
                  Re: Printing one-half page vertically with ADF.

                  Originally posted by lfh003
                  One of my duties was to treat every user question with diplomacy and tact.
                  Ours too.
                  But that is why this is not a forum for end users, but for techs.
                  And if I might add, for techs that have already tried every possible solution they could think of BEFORE posting here.

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                  • Tonerbomb
                    AutoMajical Resolutionist

                    Site Contributor
                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 2589

                    #24
                    Re: Printing one-half page vertically with ADF.

                    Originally posted by lfh003
                    Help me, please. Using the ADF, the printed page is only printed on one-half vertically. The second half comes on on page 2! Using the platen, everything prints ok. What's up with this?
                    Starts off like a first time newbie poster

                    Originally posted by lfh003
                    Thank you for replying to my post. I will try to be more specific.
                    There's a specific detail

                    Originally posted by lfh003
                    Thank you, Iowatech, for responding.
                    This printing problem was not model specific...it was a question asked of me during a job interview two days ago. What would cause such a feed/print issue: document printing correctly to paper when manually placed on the platen, but not when using ADF. The auto feed result was that one-half (vertically--top to bottom) printed in the correct location, another sheet would feed and the print would be correctly placed on the other side (vertically) of the second sheet.
                    I really do hope you got the position!!!!

                    Originally posted by lfh003
                    OK...all of you that responded, thank you. Yes, all troubleshooting questions are hypothetical until they are successfully fixed (what if this, what if that). I was interviewed by an international giant for an analyst position and this was the one question I could not answer. The two managers that interviewed me would not give me the solution.
                    I appreciate the responses from you professionals. I appreciate the Copytechnet site for having this forum. Thank you, again for being available to help.
                    No all troubleshooting questions ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL, MANY ARE YES OR NO ,Trick interview question by an industry giant HR dept......... No kidding they don't know it either, it's on the form.....

                    Originally posted by lfh003
                    Some have come to help; some have come to complain.
                    I worked for 3M from 1980-86 installing, repairing copiers, fax machines, and book detection systems. I did very well and was paid above average for those days...plus had a company F-150 van.
                    One of my duties was to treat every user question with diplomacy and tact. It is the client's satisfaction that made my pay. If the question was weird or WTF, I took it seriously. They were, also, trying to learn their machine and how to use it. So, now, I have arrived at Copynet. I am seeking answers from professional technicians...what have I received?
                    Some have come to help; some have come to complain.

                    The mature individual will recognize an opportunity to help the less informed. The immature will be too bothered.
                    Some have come to help; some have come to complain.
                    Copytechnet :You know the copy process, It hasn't changed. Just the way that the parts of it are done. but you came here with a hypothetical question from a job interview, that doesn't offer enough information and are not happy with the feedback from the consortium??? Then you question the Professionals here?? if you choose, to return and I hope you will, and inquire I hope you will be more specific with your issue

                    Is this a trick thread from the moderator??
                    Mystic Crystal Revelations

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