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  • balboni20
    Technician
    • Sep 2014
    • 21

    #1

    Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

    Hello,
    I have a 256se and from some time now after being powered off it takes about 30-40minutes to startup.
    i find this to be excesive amount of time so I kindly ask for help.

    I have a time for periodic maintenance 088 but I have read that this is not problematic.


    Thanks.
  • ARMAN.MZ
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    100+ Posts
    • Sep 2016
    • 100

    #2
    Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

    Originally posted by balboni20
    Hello,
    I have a 256se and from some time now after being powered off it takes about 30-40minutes to startup.
    i find this to be excesive amount of time so I kindly ask for help.

    I have a time for periodic maintenance 088 but I have read that this is not problematic.


    Thanks.

    update your mfp



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    • balboni20
      Technician
      • Sep 2014
      • 21

      #3
      Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

      Uhgh, it is preatty time consuming obtaining an updated version from Toshiba.

      Isnt there something to check before getting to the update bandwagon?

      Like filesystem or related?

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      • Vincent128
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        • Sep 2015
        • 346

        #4
        Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

        Where I would start is:

        Test/clean/re-seat the memory.
        bad sector test on drive or just replace it
        clear out the log files on the drive or just replace it.
        reload firmware or just load fresh firmware on a fresh drive.

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        • balboni20
          Technician
          • Sep 2014
          • 21

          #5
          Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

          Originally posted by Vincent128
          Where I would start is:

          Test/clean/re-seat the memory.
          bad sector test on drive or just replace it
          clear out the log files on the drive or just replace it.
          reload firmware or just load fresh firmware on a fresh drive.
          Thanks for your suggestions.
          I have already done a bad sector check and result was ok 08-9072
          I have cleared the log files, it was about 30mb
          I have the T160SF0W1600 firmware and probably will rewrite it but before this I wanted to make a FS check (5+C+Start) but I have realised that at every power on the copier makes a "system check please do not power off the machine" ... is this normal?
          Last edited by balboni20; 05-11-2017, 12:07 PM.

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          • Vincent128
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            • Sep 2015
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            Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

            Originally posted by balboni20
            Thanks for your suggestions.
            I have already done a bad sector check and result was ok 08-9072
            I have cleared the log files, it was about 30mb
            I have the T160SF0W1600 firmware and probably will rewrite it but before this I wanted to make a FS check (5+C+Start) but I have realised that at every power on the copier makes a "system check please do not power off the machine" ... is this normal?
            Yes, that is normal and this series of machine takes what seems like forever to come to ready from a cold start and then will seem sluggish for a bit.

            1600 is OLD the current is 2140. You have to be careful updating an old machine. There were 3 line ccd's and 4 line ccd's and your not going to be able to jump from 1600 right to 2140. Some of these firmware's did make the machine faster and less likely to kill the hard drive so i recommend you get the necessary bulletins and firmware and update your machine.

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            • ShonRipz
              Technician
              • May 2017
              • 33

              #7
              Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

              Originally posted by Vincent128
              Yes, that is normal and this series of machine takes what seems like forever to come to ready from a cold start and then will seem sluggish for a bit.

              1600 is OLD the current is 2140. You have to be careful updating an old machine. There were 3 line ccd's and 4 line ccd's and your not going to be able to jump from 1600 right to 2140. Some of these firmware's did make the machine faster and less likely to kill the hard drive so i recommend you get the necessary bulletins and firmware and update your machine.

              I agree with vincent. These machine are very slow due to their hard drives. Be careful not to power off with the hard switch without first pressing the power button on the display . These hard drives die all the time. The new hard drives toshiba started using are lightning fast compared to these ones

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              • toshibaestudio
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                • Jun 2016
                • 116

                #8
                Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

                Latest 2140 firmware is for T160HD0W2123(L4.7324) or later...

                T160HD0W2122 or later F/W included the countermeasure for HDD failure.

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                • SalesServiceGuy
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                  • Dec 2009
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                  #9
                  Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

                  On the front right of the copier, you need to look through the copier glass and see if there is a red dot, yellow dot or no dot.

                  This will determine which firmware to use.

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                  • balboni20
                    Technician
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 21

                    #10
                    Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

                    It is a yellow DOT one!
                    I know this from last time I have recieved the firmware. i was asked for this information and after that I have recieved the correct version.
                    Could I just replace the hdd with a SATA one?

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                    • Vincent128
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                      • Sep 2015
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                      Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

                      Did the 456 series ever have a non-sata drive ?

                      I am fairly certain it was always a SATA drive and its an ADI/SED/Wipe drive so while you can use an off the shelve drive it must be a wipe drive of the correct size and still might not work.

                      Updating the firmware is not such a deal, just read the literature and follow it word for word.

                      I had a Tech put the wrong firmware on one, then panic and not follow the recovery procedure...we had to get some DLG jigs to salvage the thing..that was not fun since these not only require the DLG but an adapter as well and Toshiba support was confused on the matter.

                      Some of the firmware enhancements are with regard to the drive's firmware. The original code is wonky and the HDD will fail to park the heads or loose tracking and smack the head into the spindle which can occur at power loss or at sleep/super sleep wake up. Later on the line of updates they addressed the log files filling up/trashing up.

                      As I recall when the update that has the HDD firmware in it is preformed, the fist boot up into 08-9030 took a scary long time as it was flashing the HDD's firmware.


                      Originally posted by balboni20
                      It is a yellow DOT one!
                      I know this from last time I have recieved the firmware. i was asked for this information and after that I have recieved the correct version.
                      Could I just replace the hdd with a SATA one?

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                      • didi2005
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                        • May 2011
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                        #12
                        Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

                        Yellow Dot is 4CCD, red dot is 3CCD...Firmware between the 3CCD & 4CCD are same except the scanner firmware. What u can do is skip the scanner firmware when updating firmware if u not sure which CCD your machine is.

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                        • blackcat4866
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                          Re: Toshiba eStudio 256se very slow startup

                          Originally posted by didi2005
                          Yellow Dot is 4CCD, red dot is 3CCD...Firmware between the 3CCD & 4CCD are same except the scanner firmware. What u can do is skip the scanner firmware when updating firmware if u not sure which CCD your machine is.
                          Ordinarily I follow this same procedure, but in the last firmware update the scanner firmware changes too. So check for red or yellow dot. =^..^=
                          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                          • Nalinda
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 2

                            #14
                            toshiba e studio 256se copier counter not working how fix it

                            toshiba e studio 256se copier counter not working how fix it

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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

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                              • 22997

                              #15
                              Re: toshiba e studio 256se copier counter not working how fix it

                              Originally posted by Nalinda
                              toshiba e studio 256se copier counter not working how fix it
                              Perhaps you might like to start your own thread? Go the the Toshiba Forum > New Thread
                              =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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