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  • Harry
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 228

    #1

    help please 230 280

    i have a problem with this type of copier!after replace upper fuser roller and stripper the new ones sometimes it jams in front of exit sensor with e010 code.i am see this a few times with a couple of 230 280 controlled everthing from manual sensor exit reg clutch ecc.evrething looks well.i cant understand this jam please help from your guys.called also at toshiba italy there is no answer!
  • mitsubee
    Trusted Tech
    • Jul 2007
    • 176

    #2
    Bro Harry ,

    The jammed cause when u using A4/LT or A4-R/LT-R ? If either one of them is ok then the exit roller is out of tension , by what u are looking at the roller it seem ok but it's not.If it still jammed then change the housing of the heater..it will solved it.

    Thanks

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    • Harry
      Trusted Tech

      100+ Posts
      • Feb 2009
      • 228

      #3
      thanks for your reply

      dear mr. thanks for your reply my copymachine jamed in every since of paper direction. the only thing i have to say it was not before i change the fuser stripper! This stripper have another curve not compatatibilily with the exit size of the copier. somebody help please
      Ps I know wat explain in Manual

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      • Mr Spock
        Vulcan Inventor of Death

        1,000+ Posts
        • Aug 2006
        • 2064

        #4
        Check the pre reg sensor actuator. It is below the transfer section on the right door. Many are 2mm tooo long and stick to the idler roller shaft just above it causing jams. I trim off 2-3 mm and they go away. Also it might be that you got the old style strippers and they do not work as well as the newer ones. If you lift the finger about half way up and it wants to stay or come out then it is the fingers.
        And Star Trek was just a tv show...yeah right!

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        • ToshibaTech
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Apr 2007
          • 580

          #5
          A lot of people, including myself most of the time, throw the little black wheels over the pick offs out. The machines really do run better with them in, sometimes you have to replace the top fuser cover (which has the wheel holders) molded into it along with the wheels. I think there is an updated cover out which helps hold the wheels and pick offs in place better. The wheels actually keep the pick offs from flying back into the fuser somewhat, but they usually work loose. Also, check the black exit guide and fingers inside the fuser cover/door. I have seen the back side of that come loose or break as well as sometimes the front hinge pin for that door will be bent down from the customer opening the door too far.
          I will not give you service manuals or firmware.

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          • ivovb
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Apr 2008
            • 695

            #6
            Did you set newer version of the scrapers (6LE85856000) in-spite of old one?

            BR
            I'll never ask if I didn't check user manual, service manual, parts list, BSI/TNI/TAD... web, existing threads.

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            • Harry
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Feb 2009
              • 228

              #7
              Yes Sir
              This problem come out after replace the stripper with new ones.
              Before there was no problem.i try to change fusercover now and check the pre reg sensor. I have from about 10 copiers 8 have this particolar thats wy i ask you guys
              Thank you at all and god bleass you

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              • Guest

                #8
                Sorry it sounds something you may have done as you do say it was working befor you changed parts.

                We have all done this befor to machines 1st they worked then they did not.

                I have.

                Are they Genuine Parts?

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                • cishler
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 8

                  #9
                  fusers

                  Hey guys we have found that most of the time its better just to replace the whole fuser unit, it just a little more money then the fuser rollers and the new fuser come with a update the holders the exit rollers in place better.

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                  • Harry
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 228

                    #10
                    Dear cishler

                    Thanks for your replay but i dont now for wat Company you work for!This hole Fuser Assy cost here in Europe about 2862.00 Euros for this price you can change the whole Copier.If its for you a little more mony i want se your Stipendio at the Month!
                    Thanks anyway

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                    • ToshibaTech
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 580

                      #11
                      Holy Crap, the fuser costs you like 4000 USD? Surely you kid....? I don't have pricing infront of me but I KNOW they don't cost that much more than a kit, we have replaced them and there is no way we would have ordered them if they cost nearly as much as the machine. I would replace the top cover for the fuser, all the little wheels, the exit guide in the hinged door (with the tape), and check the door hinges for bending. There is not much else it can be really...
                      I will not give you service manuals or firmware.

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                      • Harry
                        Trusted Tech

                        100+ Posts
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 228

                        #12
                        Please let me know the us price only for my knowlege.Mayby there is a big mistake in the pricelist so i can make some pressure on the toshiba italy guys! The stripper (new ones)costs 5.16 Euros a pice fore the client isnt that a good deal? 10 bugs for some plastic or teflon!
                        Thank you sire!

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                        • emujo
                          Field Supervisor

                          2,500+ Posts
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 3009

                          #13
                          My cost for a 230-280 fuser assy (6LA85759000) is 369.95 USD. My customer will pay 739.90 USD. This is the 115v version. I have no info on any european/asian price for the same assy. You're getting jacked....
                          If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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                          • toshibadale
                            Trusted Tech

                            100+ Posts
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 117

                            #14
                            Jam sensor

                            Look at the exit sensor actuator P/N 44202997000. It can swell and not perform properly and cause this jam.

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                            • Harry
                              Trusted Tech

                              100+ Posts
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 228

                              #15
                              Ok Mister Emujo Fuser unit my cost is 1717.20 Euro+20% tax Item 6LH29822000 Fuser 2320-220-2 the last one Can't see the Us Price from her. Not in the price list over here.Tomoro i make a call to toshiba Europe fore illuminations!!
                              Thank you all guys and have a nice day

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