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  • bojans
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    #1

    Toner compatibility

    Hi,

    Is the toner for DocuColor 3535 and DC 250 same for 7235 series?

    Tnx
  • GusG
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    #2
    Re: Toner compatibility

    Originally posted by bojans
    Is the toner for DocuColor 3535 and DC 250 same for 7235 series?
    First of all the toner for 3535 is EA toner and for DC250 it's EA-HG so not quite the same although I happily use DC250 toner in my 3535 as it works and does no damage (and is much cheaper and gives a slightly glossier finish) and since I calibrate my 3535 all the time any small colour difference is eliminated (I understand there's a bit of difference in magenta).

    I don't know the 7235 but if it's from the same generation chances are it uses one of the two toner types and you can use the toners in it. If it uses the newer eco toners there will be a problem as they are fused at a lower temperature.

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    • Detonation
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      Re: Toner compatibility

      I wondered myself as well and found the following on another forum. Xerox uses the following toner:

      (1) Oil-requiring pulverized toner (DC12/DC6060/DC8000)
      (2) EA toner (1632/2240/3535 + WCP32/WCP32, etc)
      (3) Oil-requiring "EA" toner (iGen)
      (4) EA-HG toner (DC250 + WC 72xx, 73xx, 76xx, 77xx + Phaser 7750, 7760)
      (5) EA-Eco toner (700, 800/1000)
      (6) Oil-requiring oddball pulverized toner (7002/8002)
      The EA, EA-HG and EA-Eco toner are mechanically the same, but have a different amount of gloss and the colors are slightly different. So putting EA-HG in a DC3535 will work fine mechanically, but you will need to calibrate colors, and the prints will be glossier. If you put normal EA in a DC240 or WC 73xx the prints will be matte and you will need to calibrate colors. EA-Eco toner has a lower melting point meaning the it will get crazy glossy if you put it in a DC240 or DC3535. And if you put EA or EA-HG in EA-Eco machine, it probably will not fuse well.

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      • bojans
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        #4
        Re: Toner compatibility

        Thanks for the info.

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        • bojans
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          Re: Toner compatibility

          (4) EA-HG toner (DC250 + WC 72xx, 73xx, 76xx, 77xx + Phaser 7750, 7760)

          This means I can use toner for DC 250?

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          • Detonation
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            #6
            Re: Toner compatibility

            Yes, 7235 toner and DC250 toner are the same. Beware though, DC250 toners are chipped and have more capacity than 7235 toners, so you will need almost 2 7235 toners to fill 1 DC250 toner, and besides you need to reset the chip.

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            • bojans
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              Re: Toner compatibility

              Yes I know about toner cartridges. As a matter of fact I need to fill 7235 tc with dc 250 toner.

              Once again thanks for the info.

              Cheers

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              • Caffeine
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                Re: Toner compatibility

                Originally posted by Detonation
                I wondered myself as well and found the following on another forum. Xerox uses the following toner:

                (1) Oil-requiring pulverized toner (DC12/DC6060/DC8000)
                (2) EA toner (1632/2240/3535 + WCP32/WCP32, etc)
                (3) Oil-requiring "EA" toner (iGen)
                (4) EA-HG toner (DC250 + WC 72xx, 73xx, 76xx, 77xx + Phaser 7750, 7760)
                (5) EA-Eco toner (700, 800/1000)
                (6) Oil-requiring oddball pulverized toner (7002/8002)
                The EA, EA-HG and EA-Eco toner are mechanically the same, but have a different amount of gloss and the colors are slightly different. So putting EA-HG in a DC3535 will work fine mechanically, but you will need to calibrate colors, and the prints will be glossier. If you put normal EA in a DC240 or WC 73xx the prints will be matte and you will need to calibrate colors. EA-Eco toner has a lower melting point meaning the it will get crazy glossy if you put it in a DC240 or DC3535. And if you put EA or EA-HG in EA-Eco machine, it probably will not fuse well.

                It's kind of funny to see one of my own messages quoted... Hope it was helpful. That list is from a while ago, but nothing much has changed other than a few more machines in the EA-Eco category.

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                • Detonation
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                  Re: Toner compatibility

                  Originally posted by Caffeine
                  It's kind of funny to see one of my own messages quoted... Hope it was helpful. That list is from a while ago, but nothing much has changed other than a few more machines in the EA-Eco category.
                  Yup, it was helpful, although I avoid changing toner myself as well it does come in handy from time to time. For example, for the Phaser 7750 I have a huge overstock of black toner, while for the WorkCentre 7228 etc I have a huge deficiency. It's good to know I can use 7750 toner in 7228 machine without problems, and that's helping me to iron out miss-balanced stock

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                  • Pinguino

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                    Re: Toner compatibility

                    how about a 7345 toner for a 7545?

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                    • Caffeine
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                      Re: Toner compatibility

                      Originally posted by Pinguino
                      how about a 7345 toner for a 7545?
                      Nope. 73xx is older EA-HG and 75xx is newer EA-Eco. The newer toner requires less heat, so the machines designed for it provide less heat, but the older toners require more heat, so using older toner in newer machines means the toner wouldn't likely get 'heated' enough and would probably flake off the paper more easily.

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                      • JimmyB
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                        #12
                        Re: Toner compatibility

                        Does anyone know what kind of toner use old Xerox DocuColor 4 and Xerox Docucolor 40 machines.
                        are they compatible with Xerox DocuColor 12 toner or not?
                        thanks

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                        • xeroxsharp
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                          #13
                          Re: Toner compatibility

                          Where can we sort 7435 toner
                          EA-HG or EA-Eco

                          Thanks

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                          • Caffeine
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                            #14
                            Re: Toner compatibility

                            Originally posted by xeroxsharp
                            Where can we sort 7435 toner
                            EA-HG or EA-Eco

                            Thanks
                            WorkCentre 73xx is EA-HG.
                            WorkCentre 74xx is EA-HG.
                            WorkCentre 75xx is EA-Eco.
                            WorkCentre 78xx is EA-Eco.

                            Phaser series printers always have a WorkCentre equivalent (except the Okidata ones which they don't do anymore) but the model number's DON'T necessarily match up. For example, the Phaser 7500's copying cousin is the WorkCentre 74xx series, not the WorkCentre 75xx series, meaning the Phaser is EA-HG. The Phaser 7800 is EA-Eco, though, like it's cousins the WorkCentre 75xx and 78xx.

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                            • occus
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                              #15
                              Re: Toner compatibility

                              Originally posted by Caffeine
                              WorkCentre 73xx is EA-HG.
                              WorkCentre 74xx is EA-HG.
                              WorkCentre 75xx is EA-Eco.
                              WorkCentre 78xx is EA-Eco.

                              Phaser series printers always have a WorkCentre equivalent (except the Okidata ones which they don't do anymore) but the model number's DON'T necessarily match up. For example, the Phaser 7500's copying cousin is the WorkCentre 74xx series, not the WorkCentre 75xx series, meaning the Phaser is EA-HG. The Phaser 7800 is EA-Eco, though, like it's cousins the WorkCentre 75xx and 78xx.
                              Do you know, can i use toner from WorkCentre 78xx for Phaser 7800?

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